To those who don't believe AGW is real

[NickFitz]

Where the fook does "logic" come into "My hypothetical computer projections are better than yours", birdbrain? That is all that various groups of "scientists" are currently doing.
Try thinking for yourself for a change. Get someone to read you "The Emperor's Clothes" as a bedtime story before they sedate you tonight also.
It might kick start something for you.

[tay]

I did look at the NASA graphs, but given the way the earths climate has changed slowly over millenia (both up and down), I am unsure how the time period that NASA have been collecting data could in any meaningful way be described as long term.

[sasguru]

Wouldn't take him seriously. He's one of the founder members of the village idiots club, albeit more amusing than the bulk of them.

[sasguru]

I did look at the NASA graphs, but given the way the earths climate has changed slowly over millenia (both up and down), I am unsure how the time period that NASA have been collecting data could in any meaningful way be described as long term.

How do you know "the earths climate has changed slowly over millenia (both up and down)"? I guess data must have been collected to establish that. So how can you talk about the limited period NASA (or anyone else) has been collecting data?
Logic isn't your strong suit is it?

[TimberWolf]

Lots of nice climate related graphs here by physicist John Baez, who some of you may know from the internet/newsgroups:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/temperature/

He also has a video out, to you only $12.99 FFS
http://www.amazon.com/John-Baez-Zoom...elongnowfounda

[Bob Dalek]

How do you know "the earths climate has changed slowly over millenia (both up and down)"? I guess data must have been collected to establish that. So how can you talk about the limited period NASA (or anyone else) has been collecting data?
Logic isn't your strong suit is it?

It has changed, in fact, surprisingly quickly, long - and short-term. Basic stuff, that.

[TimberWolf]

The end of the last iceage was rather less than millennia according to some reports.

Depends what you call an ice age. I thought we were still in one.

[DimPrawn]

Famous "hockey stick" used in IPCC report showing predicted doom due to CO2.

http://met.no/filestore/Hockey_stick...ipcc_large.jpg

Basis of IPCC report. 1990's were hottest decade on record. Temperatures rise with CO2 output.

Actual data since IPCC report:

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.C.lrg.gif

No change in global temp.

If the world ain't getting hotter, WTF are we even looking at CO2 emissions?

Answer: There is money to be made taxing CO2 producers.

Plain facts laid out for simpletons. Sas are you listening?

[sasguru]

Lots of nice climate related graphs here by physicist John Baez, who some of you may know from the internet/newsgroups:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/temperature/

He also has a video out, to you only $12.99 FFS
http://www.amazon.com/John-Baez-Zoom...elongnowfounda

Yes I like John Baez. He's a proper scientist.

[Diver]

It has changed, in fact, surprisingly quickly, long - and short-term. Basic stuff, that.

The greatest effect of global warming, has been on Polar Bears because of the Temperature rises that they are having to endure

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIwn-BdAOlU




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