To those who don't believe AGW is real

[sasguru]

Famous "hockey stick" used in IPCC report showing predicted doom due to CO2.

http://met.no/filestore/Hockey_stick...ipcc_large.jpg

Basis of IPCC report. 1990's were hottest decade on record. Temperatures rise with CO2 output.

Actual data since IPCC report:

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.C.lrg.gif

No change in global temp.

If the world ain't getting hotter, WTF are we even looking at CO2 emissions?

Answer: There is money to be made taxing CO2 producers.

Plain facts laid out for simpletons. Sas are you listening?

You said that before and I explained why. Do you think repetition makes your case stronger? Surely you can't be that cretinous? Look at John Baez's graphs for more confirmation in TWs link for more clarity.

[tay]

How do you know "the earths climate has changed slowly over millenia (both up and down)"? I guess data must have been collected to establish that. So how can you talk about the limited period NASA (or anyone else) has been collecting data?
Logic isn't your strong suit is it?

Calm down.

I though it was quite well known that the earths climate has been changing in various ways for a long time. I am disappointed with your response, people from both sides of the debate acknowledge that the earths climate is changing (and has always been changing), the difference usually occurs based on the rate and cause of change.
You are starting to sound very defensive.

[DimPrawn]

Yes I like John Baez. He's a proper scientist.

Yes, he works for the government, so he's legit.

We have seen no change in temps for last 10 years. Why?

Please explain how global warming can stop for 10 years if it is manmade and man is still producing ever more CO2?

[DimPrawn]

You said that before and I explained why. Do you think repetition makes your case stronger? Surely you can't be that cretinous? Look at John Baez's graphs for more confirmation in TWs link for more clarity.

No you haven't. Please explain no change in global temp for last 10 years and how latest model predict no more changes until at least 2020 and how this can occur whilst man is producing ever more CO2?

[tay]

The greatest effect of global warming, has been on Polar Bears because of the Temperature rises that they are having to endure

For the love of god wont someone thnk of the bears!!! I feel the need for a bear tax. Its only fair.

[snaw]

For the love of god wont someone thnk of the bears!!! I feel the need for a bear tax. Its only fair.

Sheep and bears. eh! They do say variety is the spice of life.

[Bob Dalek]

Depends what you call an ice age. I thought we were still in one.

We are. Polar caps + ice on them = ice age.

[sasguru]

Yes, he works for the government, so he's legit.

We have seen no change in temps for last 10 years. Why?

Please explain how global warming can stop for 10 years if it is manmade and man is still producing ever more CO2?

Let me ask you a question. Do you think UK house prices have stopped rising in the long term?

Jeez its like a special needs class

[Diver]

For the love of god wont someone thnk of the bears!!! I feel the need for a bear tax. Its only fair.

Did you click on the Link

[TimberWolf]

Yes I like John Baez. He's a proper scientist.

I'd like to know what Baez thinks of Lubos Motl's recent Heartland foundation research paper (posted here before). I think they were old sparring partners on sci.physics.research. Well sparring might be rather a generous word for the Lubos camp