Another reason not to visit Scotland

[DodgyAgent]

So the Irish have got over their dislike of the English? News to me. When was that announced?

Whether they have or whether they have not doesnt really matter. The fact is that they have a very strong economy and an identity of their own of which they are very proud. They are entrepreneurial, drunkards or whatever but they dont spend their time banging on about how the English have treated them. The scots identity is associated with being a nation dependent upon welfare or jobs in the public sector. They are inward and backward looking people. At least the Irish when they bombed mainland England made sure that it was their own construction companies (Murphy for instance) that picked up most of the contracts to rebuild it.

The best thing that could happen to Scotland is for them to govern themselves (keep their Oil revenues, but no subsidies from England) and become like Ireland.

[ace00]

They are inward and backward looking people. .

Yeh, that's right, what did they ever do for us? Apart from:
Television,
telephone
Penicillin
Logarithms
Kelvin temperature
Steam engine
Mcadam
etc.
and of course, Bovril

[DodgyAgent]

Yeh, that's right, what did they ever do for us? Apart from:
Television,
telephone
Penicillin
Logarithms
Kelvin temperature
Steam engine
Mcadam
etc.
and of course, Bovril

Just goes to show what they can do if they get off their arses and stop living in the past.

[TheBigYinJames]

and of course, Bovril

We had to go and spoil it, didn't we.

[TheBigYinJames]

Just goes to show what they can do if they get off their arses and stop living in the past.

Traditionally, what 'bothered' Scots have done is move south. That's why there are so many of us down here.

[boo.boo]

Yeh, that's right, what did they ever do for us? Apart from:
Television,
telephone
Penicillin
Logarithms
Kelvin temperature
Steam engine
Mcadam
etc.
and of course, Bovril

Deep fried mars bars

[wobbegong]

Yeh, that's right, what did they ever do for us? Apart from:
Television,
telephone
Penicillin
Logarithms
Kelvin temperature
Steam engine
Mcadam
etc.
and of course, Bovril

The Proclaimers!

[TheBigYinJames]

The Proclaimers!

When you goooo-o-o-o-o-o-o-o, will you send back...

.... just go, eh?

[Incognito]

The scots identity is associated with being a nation dependent upon welfare or jobs in the public sector. They are inward and backward looking people.

That is a very xenophopic statement. And it's wrong.

In the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, Scotland lost a bigger percentage of its population through emigration than any other European country except Ireland and possibly Norway. This has led Professor Tom Devine to refer to 'the paradox of Scottish emigration'. Ireland and Norway were both predominantly rural countries and fitted the classic pattern of migration from a relatively poor agricultural economy to more industrially advanced and/or rapidly developing economies. But nineteenth century Scotland was one of the world's leading industrial nations and one of the richest countries on earth. As such it would be expected to attract immigrants (like the Irish), rather than encourage emigrants.

The explanation offered for this apparent contradiction centres on the nature of the Scottish economy, especially its reliance on the heavy industries of coal, steel and ship-building - which were particularly affected by the trade cycle's peaks of prosperity and periods of depression. Statistics indicate that periods of high emigration tended to coincide with periods of trade depression. In addition, wages in Scotland were relatively low and housing conditions remained relatively poor and overcrowded right into the second half of the twentieth century. Workers in both industry and agriculture however, had developed skills and experience which were at a premium in the other parts of the world which were undergoing economic development and industrialisation. There they could enjoy greater opportunities and command higher wages; to the extent that temporary emigration became a widespread phenomenon, with about one-third of emigrants returning to Scotland

Welfare state right then.

It's arsehole comments like yours that plays up to the English haters.

[TheBigYinJames]

That is a very xenophopic statement. And it's wrong.
Welfare state right then.
It's arsehole comments like yours that plays up to the English haters.

That's true.

But it's also true to say that those Scots who can, do. Even if it means moving away from Scotland. What's left in Scotland is a larger percentage of the Can't Dos, which makes Scotland look like a low employment, dole scrounging thuggish backwards inward looking place. It's not, it's just all the nice clever people left.

And when we see Glaswegians being interviewed on the news, we cringe.