Global Cooling

[sasguru]

Someone's been doing their science homework

Indeed. Quite agree with EO's statement.

[ace00]

Forget about global warming if it bothers you so much. Just pay up for the mess you're making.

"The number of birds, animals, marine and freshwater creatures in the world has dropped by almost one third, according to the WWF conservation organisation. It found that between 1970 and 2005 land-based species fell by 25 per cent, marine species by 28 per cent and freshwater species by 29 per cent."


That's a tragedy. It's got very little to do with CO2 though.

[dang65]

"The number of birds, animals, marine and freshwater creatures in the world has dropped by almost one third, according to the WWF conservation organisation. It found that between 1970 and 2005 land-based species fell by 25 per cent, marine species by 28 per cent and freshwater species by 29 per cent."

That's a tragedy. It's got very little to do with CO2 though.

It's plenty to do with damage to the environment though, isn't it? Tides of plastic swirling round the oceans and that sort of thing. Whatever, CO2 is just one part of the pollution we cause every day. This has been discussed loads of times on here already, but congestion, noise, litter, road damage, road building in the first place, smell, dirt... it all comes from cars and people, not from nature. Why shouldn't the people that do that damage bloody well pay for it?

[DimPrawn]

tax on farting.

I'd vote for that. Mind you it would cost me a fair bit.

[sasguru]

tax on farting.

I'd vote for that. Mind you it would cost me a fair bit.

Especially when you speak.

[ace00]

It's plenty to do with damage to the environment though, isn't it? Tides of plastic swirling round the oceans and that sort of thing. Whatever, CO2 is just one part of the pollution we cause every day. This has been discussed loads of times on here already, but congestion, noise, litter, road damage, road building in the first place, smell, dirt... it all comes from cars and people, not from nature. Why shouldn't the people that do that damage bloody well pay for it?

Kids these days with your wacky "education".
You need to read up on cause, effect, scientific method and perhaps most of all "How tax works and were does it all go? For dummies"

[The Lone Gunman]

It's plenty to do with damage to the environment though, isn't it? Tides of plastic swirling round the oceans and that sort of thing. Whatever, CO2 is just one part of the pollution we cause every day. This has been discussed loads of times on here already, but congestion, noise, litter, road damage, road building in the first place, smell, dirt... it all comes from cars and people, not from nature. Why shouldn't the people that do that damage bloody well pay for it?

Car drivers already pay a disproportionate amount! I think 50 odd billion taken in tax and duty against 12 spent on roads. I would suggest drivers are paying more than enough for the damage they do.

Stop trying to hijack this thread. We were discussing global cooling and the science behind it.

[dang65]

Stop trying to hijack this thread. We were discussing global cooling and the science behind it.

You started it mate! Previous post which I was responding to:

Using climate issues as an excuse to tax is doing nothing to move us forward, particularly when that tax is not used for climate issues.

I'm just saying that, even if no one had ever heard of climate issues, these taxes would be more than justified.

Car drivers already pay a disproportionate amount! I think 50 odd billion taken in tax and duty against 12 spent on roads. I would suggest drivers are paying more than enough for the damage they do.

That's like complaining that fines for graffiti don't pay for new pots of spray paint for the vandals. The money you pay for driving your car everywhere and generally making the place unpleasant isn't intended to make it more pleasant for you to drive even more. Duh.

Anyway, as any fule no, the roads are maintained from Council Taxes, which are also paid by people that don't even drive cars, so you're being heavily subsidised in fact. The Vehicle Excise Duty is just a little extra payment into the national pot to minisculely compensate for the noise, smell, congestion and obesity that cars cause.

[DimPrawn]

I see the resident car hater has hijacked the thread.

[RichardCranium]

Worth repeating:

Kids these days with your wacky "education".
You need to read up on cause, effect, scientific method and perhaps most of all "How tax works and were does it all go? For dummies"