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    #51
    Originally posted by expat View Post
    Ah, so the government changes its mind in the light of the evidence. It is true, you couldn't accuse Thatcher of that.
    My understanding is that the current government is going to change it's mind despite the evidence...

    The Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs delivered it's report yesterday and I don't believe it recommends changing the classification.
    B00med!

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      #52
      Originally posted by Advocate View Post
      My understanding is that the current government is going to change it's mind despite the evidence...

      The Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs delivered it's report yesterday and I don't believe it recommends changing the classification.
      Yes, you're right. Oh well, I'd better change my mind...

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        #53
        Originally posted by expat View Post
        Yes, you're right. Oh well, I'd better change my mind...
        B00med!

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          #54
          Originally posted by NickFitz View Post
          Thatcher was an evil witch. She was rotten to the core, and the truth was not in her.

          Your faith in her, which I shall assume to be sincere and not trolling (since so many people adhere to the same deluded misinterpretations of history as yourself) is symptomatic of a lack of knowledge of, or an inability to understand, the actual facts of life for the general population under her regime.

          A cherry-picking of whichever superficially attractive historical details (mainly falsified and distorted) might allow you to support your attitudes, thereby evading the risk of having to face up to the fact that she was, like every other politician, a self-serving bastard, does not suggest an informed opinion, but more a religious faith.

          There are no easy solutions. There is no fairy godmother. There never was a golden age. But I can assure you that, for the majority of people in this country, life was a bloody sight worse under Thatcher than it is today.
          There is only one "cherry picker" here and it is not your "majority". Thatcher was the unpalatable medicine that was needed thanks to lilly livered weasels like you indulging yourselves in allowing fascist trade unions and socialists to run the UK into the ground and to the begging bowl of the IMF.

          Like all you little people who owe your mollycoddled little existences to the reforms that she made and the hardships endured by those innocent entrepreneurs who inevitably suffered during the "curing" process. Your petty selfish mysogynistic cowardly middle class guilt cannot bear to accept the fact that it is thanks to her you earn the money that you do.

          Armed with hindsight It may be fair to say that she could have softened the blow by borrowing more to invest in infrastructure in order to cushion the ensuing recession (borrowing from where?). It can also be argued that the poll tax was ridiculous and that she became a liability. These are all "little" arguments used by "little" people who are too cowardly (or stupid) to face up to the fact that had she not come to power the UK would today be an economic basket case.
          Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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            #55
            Originally posted by Peoplesoft bloke View Post
            The stuff about the car industry is partly true, partly revisionist. Clarkson and his ilk wouldn't buy a VW golf if BL had made it (the Maestro had a golf gearbox IIRC BTW) because they have an total and instant bias against anything made in this country without any reference to whether it's actually any good.
            I think we should also remember that the BL management(an oxymoron) helped the BL downfall. The professionals wanted to use BL - BL would not help so turned to Ford. BL gave no help to the Italian Job. They were very poor on marketing.

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              #56
              Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
              There is only one "cherry picker" here and it is not your "majority". Thatcher was the unpalatable medicine that was needed thanks to lilly livered weasels like you indulging yourselves in allowing fascist trade unions and socialists to run the UK into the ground and to the begging bowl of the IMF.

              Like all you little people who owe your mollycoddled little existences to the reforms that she made and the hardships endured by those innocent entrepreneurs who inevitably suffered during the "curing" process. Your petty selfish mysogynistic cowardly middle class guilt cannot bear to accept the fact that it is thanks to her you earn the money that you do.

              Armed with hindsight It may be fair to say that she could have softened the blow by borrowing more to invest in infrastructure in order to cushion the ensuing recession (borrowing from where?). It can also be argued that the poll tax was ridiculous and that she became a liability. These are all "little" arguments used by "little" people who are too cowardly (or stupid) to face up to the fact that had she not come to power the UK would today be an economic basket case.

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                #57
                Like all you little people who owe your mollycoddled little existences to the reforms that she made and the hardships endured by those innocent entrepreneurs who inevitably suffered during the "curing" process


                Terrible sacrifice they made while 3.5 million were living it up on the dole.
                The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

                But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Bagpuss View Post
                  Like all you little people who owe your mollycoddled little existences to the reforms that she made and the hardships endured by those innocent entrepreneurs who inevitably suffered during the "curing" process


                  Terrible sacrifice they made while 3.5 million were living it up on the dole.
                  And that occurred because of the flipping unions, and 'nationalised industry' not because of Thatcher.

                  eg: you have gangrene, unless you get it amputated you will die - it's not as though you can blame the doctor who amputates now can you?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                    There is only one "cherry picker" here and it is not your "majority". Thatcher was the unpalatable medicine that was needed thanks to lilly livered weasels like you indulging yourselves in allowing fascist trade unions and socialists to run the UK into the ground and to the begging bowl of the IMF.

                    Like all you little people who owe your mollycoddled little existences to the reforms that she made and the hardships endured by those innocent entrepreneurs who inevitably suffered during the "curing" process. Your petty selfish mysogynistic cowardly middle class guilt cannot bear to accept the fact that it is thanks to her you earn the money that you do.

                    Armed with hindsight It may be fair to say that she could have softened the blow by borrowing more to invest in infrastructure in order to cushion the ensuing recession (borrowing from where?). It can also be argued that the poll tax was ridiculous and that she became a liability. These are all "little" arguments used by "little" people who are too cowardly (or stupid) to face up to the fact that had she not come to power the UK would today be an economic basket case.
                    Do what thou wilt

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Lucy View Post
                      And that occurred because of the flipping unions, and 'nationalised industry' not because of Thatcher.

                      eg: you have gangrene, unless you get it amputated you will die - it's not as though you can blame the doctor who amputates now can you?
                      3.5 million people many of them skilled tradespeople were gangerine? Now I have heard it all! You live in cloud cuckoo land.


                      On the same site where some people complain about FTVs stealing their jobs.
                      The court heard Darren Upton had written a letter to Judge Sally Cahill QC saying he wasn’t “a typical inmate of prison”.

                      But the judge said: “That simply demonstrates your arrogance continues. You are typical. Inmates of prison are people who are dishonest. You are a thoroughly dishonestly man motivated by your own selfish greed.”

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