A staff share dealing site I've previously used was dreadful, gave you absolutely no confirmation upon selling your shares and left you with no way of finding out if what you'd done had just gone through, so invariably you'd have to get on the phone to customer services to check.
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I hate web front ends
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What's a web front end? It sounds groovy, where can I get one?bloggoth
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Originally posted by DieScum View PostI hate web front ends. They are invariably, invariably terrible. You click a button and wait a minute for the next screen, then all the text is deleted randomly, then the browser crashes.
Every system I have ever worked on with a web frontend has been rubbish. I just want to type text then have it saved centrally for other people to see. it should work and be simple.
unfortunately, predicting the future was never my strong point
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Originally posted by DieScum View PostI hate web front ends. They are invariably, invariably terrible. You click a button and wait a minute for the next screen, then all the text is deleted randomly, then the browser crashes.
Every system I have ever worked on with a web frontend has been rubbish. I just want to type text then have it saved centrally for other people to see. it should work and be simple.
Most web front ends suck because writing a resilient front end for a client-server application that will operate over a stateless protocol like HTTP is hard, and most people are too lazy to do "hard", even if they have the necessary knowledge and skills.
There is no reason whatsoever for a web front end to be anything other than as responsive as the network is capable of, and as resilient to failure as a desktop application (preferably more so, given that it isn't reliant on local data storage and the risk of a crash wiping the data out).
But you show me the web developer who understands any of the fundamentals, and I'll pocket a very handy thousand quid as a finder's fee from my clients, who hunt high and low for these people. I'll even buy you a drink if you show me three of them
To qualify, they have to already understand the eight fallacies of distributed computing, and be able to explain the fallaciousness of each one in concrete terms.
If they can do that, they have a fighting chance of writing a web application that addresses your concerns - but only if they're good at applying such understanding to real-world problems.
Nobody ever said this stuff was easy (I faced fewer challenges when I was writing real-time systems in assembly language in the Eighties), yet people seem to think that being able to do a bit of HTML with some JSP/PHP/ASP/WOTEVERSP picked up from easypeasywebbystuff.com makes them a professional... the tragedy being that corporations hire themComment
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Originally posted by NickFitz View PostMost software, web or desktop, sucks because most software developers are fundamentally incompetent and have no interest in improving - they just want what they see as the easy bucks to be made in IT.Comment
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I never thought I'd say it but "can we have a new tax" on web pages that cause "Done" to be displayed in the status bar when they're not bloody done.Comment
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Originally posted by Masher View PostI never thought I'd say it but "can we have a new tax" on web pages that cause "Done" to be displayed in the status bar when they're not bloody done.
Internet Explorer is, unfortunately, too broken to be of any use as a web browser.Comment
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To qualify, they have to already understand the eight fallacies of distributed computing, and be able to explain the fallaciousness of each one in concrete terms.
If they can do that, they have a fighting chance of writing a web application that addresses your concerns - but only if they're good at applying such understanding to real-world problems.
Unfortunately most of my projects have to use what is in situ and I make recommendations accordingly, then build them. Problem is, as you suggest, we have to make a living and if the client insists on a 'web' front end, even after I have demonstrated that it would not 'work too well' etc... I would still build it and bank the cash.
Generally, in such a situation, I present a much better/faster/easier solution using older technology and they buy it.Last edited by Jubber; 11 April 2008, 09:34.Comment
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Originally posted by NickFitz View PostInternet Explorer is, unfortunately, too broken to be of any use as a web browser.
What happened to the EU trying to force M$ not to ship IE with Windows?
Until that happens it's like asking someone not to use their own hands. Only those that wish they were terminator bothers with Firefox or other alternatives.Feist - 1234. One camera, one take, no editing. Superb. How they did it
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It just feels things are going backwards sometimes.
While I'm sure it is possible to have a responsive, resilient ( and that is all I am asking!) web front end it just never seems to be the case... hopefully as technology improves.Comment
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