Death of the pub

[Moscow Mule]

I'd rather have them smoke - this way they only die themselves rather than get drunk and kill people.

I can't even begin to list the myriad of thing wrong with this sentence.

Are you sure you're not on (or off prematurely) drugs today?

[AtW]

I think it's been proven (in the UK & Scandinavia at least) that this doesn't work when drinking to excess is examined.

Do you think if we compare how many young people get drunk here and there we will find that UK is not a lot worse than them? 40p Tesco Value Beer has no right to exist in this world, heck whole of Tesco is aweful.

[AtW]

Are you sure you're not on (or off prematurely) drugs today?

No. Next...

[Moscow Mule]

Do you think if we compare how many young people get drunk here and there we will find that UK is not a lot worse than them?

Not what I mean. I mean taxation doesn't stop people from doing what they want where alcohol is concerned. I think it's the viking genes or something.

40p Tesco Value Beer has no right to exist in this world, heck whole of Tesco is aweful.

Tesco is very convenient for me. I would not buy their beer (nor anything from their "value" range).

[AtW]

Not what I mean. I mean taxation doesn't stop people from doing what they want where alcohol is concerned. I think it's the viking genes or something.

Taxation could be good way to raise money from particular thing to tackle negative issues arising from that thing, like drinks. The problem of course is that Govt wants to use strealth taxes used for all sort of things and they don't want to tackle negative issues because it will prevent them from raising tax later.

Tesco is very convenient for me. I would not buy their beer (nor anything from their "value" range).

Their whole stores are rather tacky - yet the prices are not cheap. Morrisons are much better, heck even ASDA is better than Tesco.

[Dow Jones]

So called 'reasons'

Alleged 'traffic congestion' = Congestion charge
Alleged 'green directive' = Tax on petrol
Alleged 'health reasons' = Tax on cigarettes
Alleged 'binge drinking' = Tax on alcohol
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Alleged 'incompetence' = ?????

[hyperD]

What about lobbying by Tesco:

Government introduce a smoking ban and raise taxes on booze: pubs suffer and go bust as punters go to supermarkets and offies.

Tesco lobbies government to ban cheap alcohol. Prices go up and the big four become the dominant retailers as the small shops and offies go bust.

Quite clever really.

I think I might bring out the old wine and beer making kits and threaten to make some of my friends blind again.

[Churchill]

I think I might bring out the old wine and beer making kits and threaten to make some of my friends blind again.

Oi Hyper, Can you brew up some 100LL?

[SueEllen]

Taxation could be good way to raise money from particular thing to tackle negative issues arising from that thing, like drinks. The problem of course is that Govt wants to use strealth taxes used for all sort of things and they don't want to tackle negative issues because it will prevent them from raising tax later.
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ATW the tax issue is a waste of space as teenagers don't drink the 40p lager. It's people who have parties who will buy it. I mean once you are that drunk you shouldn't be able to taste it.

I've only found one teenager who liked drinking beer and even he wouldn't drink lager - he drank real ale.

Teenagers drink sweet alcoholic drinks like cider, barcardi breezers, spirits with mixers and sweet wine.

The Tory's have recognised this but due to the law where duty can only be raised on spirits, wine and beer then it's raised across the board.

Basically if you want teenagers to stop binge drinking then you show loads of people p**** off their heads and give them the message it ain't cool. I can't tell the teenagers I know I've been that p**** as they can't understand why people do it.

[The Lone Gunman]

It is an excuse to raise more money to pay civil servants pensions.
If they realy wanted to make a difference to teenage and binge drinking then they would have changed the law not the revenue.
For instance. It is not illegal for under age drinkers to possess alcohol, it is only illegal to sell it to them, so.... change the law so they can be arrested for possession and enforce the law concerning sales. Remove the licence of shops which never check age or persistantly sell booze to kids.


A few measly pence wont stop me drinking, I am a contractor after all.

Remember, Its only binge drinking if you stop!