Scots trying to get Berwick on Tweed

[shaunbhoy]

How come should Berwick be part of Scotland

Let the people decide. Free prescriptions, the other goodies that the Barnett formula brings, or permanently being linked with Geordieland. Some choice eh?
Besides, apparently they may technically still be at war with Germany. Much better Defence budget available if they can get their snouts in the Scottish trough. They could upgrade their catapults!!

[daviejones]

Edward the 1st then invaded Berwick in 1220, so Berwick upon Tweed was Scottish for 200 years, for the other 1600 years over the last 2 millenium it has been English.

How come should Berwick be part of Scotland

Maybe we should ask them what they want???

[Troll]

Did you know?

Cumbria and Northumberland have amongst the largest Scottish born communities in the world outside of Scotland. 16,628 Scottish born people were residing in Cumbria in 2001 (3.41% of the county's population) and 11,435 Scottish born people were residing in Northumberland (3.72% of the county's population), note that the average percentage of Scottish born people in England is 1.62%

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[shaunbhoy]

Edward the 1st then invaded Berwick in 1220,

What a Leader. Invaded a town 19 years before he was even born! Was he related to threaded and his time machine I wonder?

[BlasterBates]

One of the most brutal sackings was by King Edward I of England in 1296

however

In 1174, Berwick was paid as part of the ransom of William I of Scotland to Henry II of England. It was sold back to Scotland by Richard I of England, to raise money to pay for Crusades. It was destroyed in 1216 by King John of England, who attended in person the razing of the town with some barbarity.

[shaunbhoy]

however

The English do seem to have a bit of a tendency to sack the place. Not only that the latest craze seems to be to stone the fire brigade when they come to put it out!!
Tsk tsk!!

[BlasterBates]

The English do seem to have a bit of a tendency to sack the place. Not only that the latest craze seems to be to stone the fire brigade when they come to put it out!!
Tsk tsk!!

not at all

During the reign of Queen Elizabeth I of England, vast sums — one source reports "£128,648, the most expensive undertaking of the Elizabethan period" [5] — were spent on its fortifications, in a new Italian style (trace italienne), designed both to withstand artillery and to facilitate its use from within the fortifications. Although most of Berwick Castle was demolished in the 19th century to make way for the railway, the military barracks remain, as do the town's rampart walls — one of the finest remaining examples of its type in the country.

[daviejones]

What is this, a Google tournament?

[daviejones]

King John's reign has been traditionally characterised as one of the most disastrous in English history

[BlasterBates]

...ah you mean we should pop down the library and look it up in books.


Well go ahead Davie, and thanks for volunteering.