Oh Dear: Uber Doomed & Deja Vu

[Dow Jones]

Why propaganda?

It's not. Each country has a duty to protect and safeguard the welfare of its citizens, including their jobs to a certain extend. You can't compare the std of living here to the one of Eastern Europe, they were pulling carts and horses 10 years ago, it's like 100 years behind. You can't start from the same base, it's ludicrous. Each generation expects their living standards to be higher than the last one's.

[TimberWolf]

I think the argument essentially boils down to whether you….

- Recognise that importing hundreds of thousands of people willing to work for minimum wage is bound to have adverse affects on society as well as good affects.

Or

- Are influenced by the popular press when it highlights atypical cases and that the solution to these is to adopt a US style social policy, and ignore the affects of mass immigration on wage deflation. i.e. I’m okay Jack, stuff ‘em / crucify them.

Next.

[NoddY]

British working class

Most of them already do work, but they are still in a pretty hopeless situation. That the sentiment of popular press is that working class Brits are lazy doesn’t alter the fact that sections of society have been hit hard by mass immigration, while others have befitted enormously. No doubt this divide will even out eventually, not least because mass immigration can’t continue indefinitely, but in the meantime we have to suffer the propaganda and some actually believe in it.

When crony capitalism inhabited nationalism it sent millions of the working class to their deaths in WW1. Now it inhabits the free market it $h!ts on them more subtly.

[milanbenes]

Taffe,

'You can't compare the std of living here to the one of Eastern Europe, they were pulling carts and horses 10 years ago, it's like 100 years behind.'

you poor misguided fool.

Still if that's everyone's opinion it will keep the riff raff out.

Milan.

[Ardesco]

I think the argument essentially boils down to whether you….

- Recognise that importing hundreds of thousands of people willing to work for minimum wage is bound to have adverse affects on society as well as good affects.

Or

- Are influenced by the popular press when it highlights atypical cases and that the solution to these is to adopt a US style social policy, and ignore the affects of mass immigration on wage deflation. i.e. I’m okay Jack, stuff ‘em / crucify them.

Next.

The point is if those on benefits didn't have it so easy they would do the poor paid jobs and then we wouldn't need to import hundreds of thousands of people to do them. Minimum wage is minimum wage, do you really think your average employer gives a toss if it is a uk national or an immigrant that does the job as long as they do it well for minimum wage?

I'm not trying to say it is right to continually import loads of people to do tulip jobs, I'm saying it is to be expected if the locals can't be arsed to do them because they have a better standard of living if they sit on thier arse doing feck all.

You should have a better standard of living if you have a minimum wage job than if you live off benefits. If you have a better/the same standard of living by sitting on your arse claiming benefits, the benefits are too generous and need to be reduced.

This is the only way to get people working again.

[milanbenes]

the fact is, whoever thought up the minimum wage concept was too short sighted and naive to realise it would infact become for a lot of people the maximum wage !

anyway, what/how much is the minimum wage ?

Milan.

[milanbenes]

Hi Zeit,

I have the multiswitch, collected from the old folks when I was over at chrimbo, bridge is 5 pound 10 these days !!! and went and bought four fish and chips from the local chippy and it was 17 pound 10 !!!! cost of living eh.

Anyway, have now got the multiswitch, and the next steps are:

connect the cables ijn the loft to the multi switch

connect the multiswitch to the kitchen cable (that's where I do all the prototyping at the mo)

buy a decoder

see if it all works

if it doesn't work my first guess will be that I have a quad and not a quattro lnb


anyway, should have these steps completed by the end of the month


have you taken any orders for our business: zeitghost and milan satellite installations to the rich and idle yet ?


Milan.

[Ardesco]

the fact is, whoever thought up the minimum wage concept was too short sighted and naive to realise it would infact become for a lot of people the maximum wage !

anyway, what/how much is the minimum wage ?

Milan.

• £5.52 per hour for workers aged 22 years and older
• A development rate of £4.60 per hour for workers aged 18-21 inclusive
• £3.40 per hour for all workers under the age of 18, who are no longer of compulsory school age.

[DiscoStu]

Isn't £17.10 quite cheap for fish & chips for 4?

[milanbenes]

jeeeez so the maximum wage for a big chunk of people is 5 pound 50 !!! in a world of today's cost of living !!

amazing, was in frankfurt last year (and by the way, the supermarket prices there are the same numbers as in the UK except the currency is euros!!!)

and was in a Lidl and they had an advert on the board for a shop worker and they were offering 12 euro 75 !


And then people like Taffe on here think Eastern europe is 100 years behind the UK on standard of living - oh dear - poor lad.


Milan.