Another what would you do ?

[SandyDown]

Let's be fair. You are not going to stop this girl playing with drugs.

Should we not try then?? Oh what a relief my conscious is completely clear now, how can I ever thank you!!

[sasguru]

Some are even both

Hence the and/or in my original comment.

[youwhut]

Should we not try then?? Oh what a relief my conscious is completely clear now, how can I ever thank you!!

Lock your children indoors - it will solve the problem!

[Bagpuss]

That's purely an accident of timing. If alcohol was discovered now (Someone mentioned this before) and we had several years of sitting by and watching the effects of alcohol (Immediate and collateral) do you really think it wouldn't be made illegal?

Why does this hypocrisy keep getting overlooked in this debate?

Alcohol is a tangent to this debate, it seems the advice of some is let the girl try all illegal drugs, they are safer than alcohol, when blatently they are not. In recent years I have known a couple of people with serious coke addictions. They still drink but they can control that, the drug addcition has taken them to the depths of dispair, including suicide attempts. The dangers of alcohol is a ruse, a side track to this argument. It's not good advice to tell children coke is safe, the addicition it can lead to is not harmless, the inpurities inherent in it being illegal means it's a gamble with your life, the physical side effects are not all well known and are not easily managable, what is the correct dose? what is the safe dose? how do we know? Moreover how do they know? The advice to children, and remember this child is getting into drugs, not trying it once, should be to know they are taking a big risk with their health and welfare. Adults may realise that risk, be oblivious or whatever, but that is their choice, for a minor the parents are responsible and as such they need to know.
Alcohol can damage your liver it won't damage your brain and cardio vascular system, coke use will, add to that there is nothing more annoying than someone coked up and in your face, it's pretty pathetic, worse than any drunk and twice as obnoxious.

[SallyAnne]

Acid isn't generally dangerous SA, though it can cause schizophrenia in some people. So no it isn't surprising you got through your teenage years unaffected, and when you were older you sniffed a bit of coke, and obviously no effects, but if this girl snorts cocaine to excess, she's playing with fire.

*if* she snorts to excess.

And that's where this whole thread started - SD said this lass had "just started getting into drugs", at which point I dont think there's a problem, and I think it's her own business.

If the question had been "my daughters friend is addicted to drugs and is dangerously out of control - should I tell her parents?" I dont think there'd be a person on the board who'd have said no.


Is this fettled yet? Can we tell Tay it's over?

[oracleslave]

Alcohol is a tangent to this debate, it seems the advice of some is let the girl try all illegal drugs, they are safer than alcohol, when blatently they are not. In recent years I have known a couple of people with serious coke addictions. They still drink but they can control that, the drug addcition has taken them to the depths of dispair, including suicide attempts. The dangers of alcohol is a ruse, a side track to this argument. It's not good advice to tell children coke is safe, the addicition it can lead to is not harmless, the inpurities inherent in it being illegal means it's a gamble with your life, the physical side effects are not all well known and are not easily managable, what is the correct dose? what is the safe dose? how do we know? Moreover how do they know? The advice to children, and remember this child is getting into drugs, not trying it once, should be to know they are taking a big risk with their health and welfare. Adults may realise that risk, be oblivious or whatever, but that is their choice, for a minor the parents are responsible and as such they need to know.
Alcohol can damage your liver it won't damage your brain and cardio vascular system, coke use will, add to that their is nothing more annoying than someone coked up and in your face, it's pretty pathetic, worse than any drunk and twice as obnoxious.

[youwhut]

Alcohol is a tangent to this debate, it seems the advice of some is let the girl try all illegal drugs, they are safer than alcohol, when blatently they are not.

Nah, you just don't appear to understand the hypocrisy.

[SallyAnne]

it seems the advice of some is let the girl try all illegal drugs

Please let us know ANY person who said that?

[BlasterBates]

*if* she snorts to excess.

And that's where this whole thread started - SD said this lass had "just started getting into drugs", at which point I dont think there's a problem, and I think it's her own business.

If the question had been "my daughters friend is addicted to drugs and is dangerously out of control - should I tell her parents?" I dont think there'd be a person on the board who'd have said no.


Is this fettled yet? Can we tell Tay it's over?

No

I'm not suggesting you lock your teenager up, and as a parent I think you have very little influence but if I had a teenage daughter on coke I'd make sure she's get counselling. Drugs whether that is alcohol or anything else affect teenagers much more than adults. The "high" is much higher. There are many twenty-somethings that now have permanent brain damage from their excessive ecstasy use. The least you can do is talk to your daughter.

If you see your child on a bottle of vodka a day you'd also give them counselling.

[Bagpuss]

Please let us know ANY person who said that?

In your case coke, but, you are still very wrong, you cannot argue against fact. I'm not telling people they shouldn't do it, I am responding to the initial dilema in a reasoned way, rather than an attempt to rationalise my own behaviour.
As a side track acid never leaves the brain, flashbacks can happen years later, it can induce epilepsy, I know someone who had a flashback while operating heavy machinery and ended up seriously injuring himself. It's important children know the risks.