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Ex-CIA agent: We used torture and it worked

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    #61
    We could argue about this ad infinitum. I think it's suffice to say that you and I aren't going to agree about these things anytime soon...
    Fair do's....
    Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

    C.S. Lewis

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      #62
      Not sure if it has been posted but here is a link to watwerboarding in practice. It looks grim.
      "If you can read this, thank a teacher....and since it's in English, thank a soldier"

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        #63
        Originally posted by daviejones View Post
        Not sure if it has been posted but here is a link to watwerboarding in practice. It looks grim.
        They don't tell you everything - they say what they do, but they don't say the words being said while this is done - these words are far more important from torture point of view then actual action, that's why they erased those tapes.

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          #64
          Originally posted by AtW View Post
          They don't tell you everything - they say what they do, but they don't say the words being said while this is done - these words are far more important from torture point of view then actual action, that's why they erased those tapes.
          Yep, they also did what they call a "lite" version. The real version includes putting clingfilm round the face, cutting a small hole and pouring the water in...now that is mean.
          "If you can read this, thank a teacher....and since it's in English, thank a soldier"

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            #65
            Originally posted by Board Game Geek View Post
            Well, the simple answer is to not torture them then.

            Arrest then, give them a jolly good ticking off, and send them on their way.

            I'm sure that will work.
            Strangely, a remarkably effective technique against terrorists.
            Drivelling in TPD is not a mental health issue. We're just community blogging, that's all.

            Xenophon said: "CUK Geek of the Week". A gingerjedi certified "Elitist Tw@t". Posting rated @ 5 lard points

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              #66
              Originally posted by BrowneIssue View Post
              Strangely, a remarkably effective technique against terrorists.
              Only court can make a decision that someone is a terrorist. Should this decision be ever made that person would go to jail for a very long time.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Board Game Geek View Post
                I'm talking about a scenario in the UK in which a terrorist commits an atrocity, there is no room for doubt, so it's pointless going to trial, and prior to the execution (he's going to die anyway), there may be some information that may be useful through torture.
                So instead of executing the Brazilian on the underground, they should have tortured him to death instead.

                Excellent plan. Well done.

                Go study some history.
                Drivelling in TPD is not a mental health issue. We're just community blogging, that's all.

                Xenophon said: "CUK Geek of the Week". A gingerjedi certified "Elitist Tw@t". Posting rated @ 5 lard points

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by AtW View Post
                  Only court can make a decision that someone is a terrorist. Should this decision be ever made that person would go to jail for a very long time.
                  go to jail for a very long time = out in 24 months with an apoligy for any inconvenienced caused

                  Mailman

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Mailman View Post
                    go to jail for a very long time = out in 24 months with an apoligy for any inconvenienced caused
                    Doesn't matter if he got life sentence in proper court - torturing people is becoming scum like nazies and communists. If you want to be like them then fair enough - I would support law that would allow to torture people who, like you, advocate torture.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Mailman View Post
                      go to jail for a very long time = out in 24 months with an apoligy for any inconvenienced caused

                      Mailman
                      apology

                      inconvenience
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