Contractors favorite gourmet food.

[SandyDown]

Just remembered that’s not animals that work for us, its all domestic animals whether they work or not!!!

[SandyDown]

Last night in my hotel room I boiled up a couple of potatoes then cut into little bits, diced an onion, chopped up a couple of cloves of garlic and sliced 2 bockwursts. Fried that lot up together with some chilli and garlic then added 2 whisked eggs with a bit of milk, pepper and paprika. A nice version of Bauernschmaus.

In a hotel room ? Did you raise the alarm and everyone had to evacuate the hotel because of you? I hate it when thoughtless people like you do that.

[TimberWolf]

Did anyone mention that we share 30% of our genes with lettuce? They’re all our cousins, and some are tastier than others.

[Money Money Money]

What is it with lobster? The GF and myself have had the lobster platter quite a few times at Loch Fyne when we dine out. Now, don't get me wrong, its nice, but, for a starter, I much prefer King Scallops.

Beef wellington is a must!!!

PS - Has anyone tried Kobe beef? What did you think of it?

Kobe beef? Not cheap!
Grille on the alley in Manchester does a Kobe steak for a mere £50.

Got the Lobster instead though!

[poser]

fried tempura of monkfish on a leafy salad with fries as a side

[NotAllThere]

If I recall it correctly, Jesus said he was sent to complete the testament (i.e. the old testament) the new testament is a kind of biography of his life, however he still recognised the old testament, most Jewish laws (dos and don’ts) are also repeated in the Koran.
However, Christian interpreted the fact Jesus freed them to be they are allowed to do whatever they like (as long as they agree with the commandment)

Apart from one story about Paul not wanting to eat shellfish with the local (cuz he was still stuck in his old Jewish eating ways) then feeling bad about snubbing the locals and what they are eating, I haven’t ready anywhere that Jesus actually did eat the stuff that were not allowed in the old testament.

The repetition of some of the laws in the Koran concludes to me that the source of all these commandment is the same (no pork, no blood, Kosher (or halal) , separate the clean and the dirty (contamination) etc etc
However the shellfish issue and mixing meat and cheese(diary) is not repeated in the Koran (I think)

Again, new age diets have invented other foods i.e. human eating other carnivore animals (e.g. alligator steak etc – not sure how healthy is that) the norm is for humans to only eat vegetarian animals (cows/sheep/chicken/duck/ geese) that’s why we got the plague of mad cow disease when farmers started feeding their cows and sheep animal protein – from my research into the matter usually there is a very good reason for most of these laws in the ancient books. And I do believe the laws are consistent.

As for your question why are they there – it’s the cycle of life, predator species are there to control the population of other species, other species are there because they benefit the soil or use up waste created by other species (e.g. worms) nature is orchestrated in an amazing way.

If you wonder about the prohibition about shellfish, have a look at what shellfish actually eat.

Jews are not permitted, according to the Torah, to eat a goat-kid that's been cooked in its mother's milk. This has been interpreted by subsequent Jewish teachers as don't ever eat milk and meat products together, to prevent the remotest possibility of this happening, and thereby causing an inadvertant sin.

The new testament consists of four books about Jesus's life, by four different authors (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John), for four different purposes, in four different styles. Matthew and Luke draw, according to most scholars, on the same source material, but have significant additional material of their own. There is the book of Acts, which was written by Luke, and describes the early Christian experiences after Jesus' death and resurrection. This is followed by many letters written to the various Christian groups, in the Roman world, in the early 1st century. All of which (except the letter to the Hebrews, which was a letter to the Jewish Christians in Rome), attest to authorship by Paul, Timothy, John, Peter, Jude and James. ( I may have missed one or two). The final book is the book of Revelations, which is an apocalyptic vision, supposedly given by Jesus to John, when John was exiled on Patmos. With the exception possibly of Luke, the whole new testament was written by Jews, either in Greek or Aramaic.

Jesus said that he had come to fulfil the law, not to abolish it. He also said that you fulfil the law by adhering to two commandments.

1) Love the Lord your God with all your heart and mind and soul.
2) Love others as much as you love yourself.


There is no story that I am aware of about Paul refusing to eat shellfish because he was stuck in his Jewish ways. Quite the opposite in fact. Paul rebuked Peter because he would eat with the gentiles so long as no Jews were around. Paul rightly called him a hypocrite.

There were issues in the early church about what Christian Jews and Gentiles should eat. The eventual decision, reach in accord with Paul, by the Jerusalem church, was that Gentiles should abstain from eating blood, and that Jews should generally stick to the Jewish dietary laws. However, these were not new laws. It is very clear that all are free to eat whatever they want, so long as it doesn't harm themselves, and doesn't offend others (so a Jewish Christian tucking into a bacon sandwich and having a glass of milk in front of an Hasidic Jew, is not really on; but neither is it on for a Jewish Christian to NOT accept a glass of milk and a bacon sarnie offered in a Gentile home. ).

All of this is simply my understanding of the orthodox position, and of course is debated on all points.

[NotAllThere]

Kobe beef? Not cheap!
Grille on the alley in Manchester does a Kobe steak for a mere £50.

Got the Lobster instead though!

I had kobe beef in the Buddha Bar in Paris a few years ago. Quite tasty, but not worth the cost.

Stick to lobster.

[darmstadt]

In a hotel room ? Did you raise the alarm and everyone had to evacuate the hotel because of you? I hate it when thoughtless people like you do that.

My hotel room has a 2 ring cooker, a fridge and a pizza oven in it. Its more of a hotel/apartment and because I've been there so long, when they put the prices up next year, I get it for the same price as this year. Nice...

[SandyDown]

Not all there, many thanks, your post is very useful (for me at least)
Apologies for mixing up, I thought it was Paul but you are right it was Peter who was didn’t want to eat with the gentile (am sure it was shellfish though, don’t know where I got that from – memory not that great though)

As I thought, the way Christian ate was all human interpretation, it was not written in any book of God. Hence I think the Jewish/Islamic way of Kosher eating is the right way.

As for interpreting the goat kid cooked in milk to be all contamination of meat and milk I think is extreme, again another human interpretation, however, it may be sensible (I like chicken stuffed with cream cheese )

Thanks again you are a wealth of knowledge, I may call up on your knowledge again if I may

[SandyDown]

Btw: did you know there is a diet called the Maker’s diet, someone Jordan Rubin, he suffered from various allergies and diabetes and I think chronic fatigue syndrome, someone suggested to him, why don’t you eat according to the Torah (I assume he must be Jewish) and apparently the diet cured a lot of his allergies by eliminating food that was toxic to his body, he wrote a book about it. I haven’t read the book, but I am intrigued to read more about it.

I suppose the diet wont work for atheist cuz it seems some of the rational is spiritual / religious

Am gona start with reading his site

http://www.makersdiet.com