Was Enoch Powell right?

[sasguru]

Anyways, was Enoch Powell right or wrong. Yes or No.

Maybe. Maybe not.

HTH.

[Troll]

Anyways, was Enoch Powell right or wrong. Yes or No.

Shall we have a Poll?

[Damp Cave]

Too many take his words too literally; he was relaying (as was the hon gent the other day) what the public were saying and warning of where things might end. Once someone plays the race card or one of the other trump cards (Nazi, BNP, Enoch, …) they are simply trying to quell debate and will not fear to threaten further if heed is not taken of their self-righteousness. In some ways his predictions about ‘whip hand’ who has the power in certain areas of debate are correct. We cannot discuss certain matters innocently with impunity, someone will for sure say it’s racist and then of course (as is decided it must be so if someone thinks it is) it is. 70m in 20 years, do the people not get a say in this? Does the common man understand that means 10m more foreign workers to compete with for all sorts of essential needs in life? What will the possibilities be in those 20y for changing anything when it is likely the indigenous folk of this land will be a minority in any large city? If these are racist questions then so be it, I’m sure many would like to ask them, ask them for your children.

[threaded]

Or even a Pole?

Don't be silly, then it'd be Vistillus, not Tiber. .

[SueEllen]

What does "indigenous folk" mean?

[DimPrawn]

What does "indigenous folk" mean?

Gingers.

[sasguru]

Too many take his words too literally; he was relaying (as was the hon gent the other day) what the public were saying and warning of where things might end. Once someone plays the race card or one of the other trump cards (Nazi, BNP, Enoch, …) they are simply trying to quell debate and will not fear to threaten further if heed is not taken of their self-righteousness. In some ways his predictions about ‘whip hand’ who has the power in certain areas of debate are correct. We cannot discuss certain matters innocently with impunity, someone will for sure say it’s racist and then of course (as is decided it must be so if someone thinks it is) it is. 70m in 20 years, do the people not get a say in this? Does the common man understand that means 10m more foreign workers to compete with for all sorts of essential needs in life? What will the possibilities be in those 20y for changing anything when it is likely the indigenous folk of this land will be a minority in any large city? If these are racist questions then so be it, I’m sure many would like to ask them, ask them for your children.

The reason we can't debate this is because the lefties jump on ranting, irrational people like you and tar us all with the same brush.
But you know this. Your point is not to find a solution but to sow discord.
You true colours were exposed in your earlier posts. This is why you were banned, was it not?

[threaded]

What does "indigenous folk" mean?

A contemporary working definition of "indigenous peoples" for certain purposes has criteria which would seek to include cultural groups (and their descendants) who have an historical continuity or association with a given region, or parts of a region, and who formerly or currently inhabit the region either:

before its subsequent colonization or annexation; or
alongside other cultural groups during the formation of a nation-state; or
independently or largely isolated from the influence of the claimed governance by a nation-state,
And who furthermore:

have maintained at least in part their distinct linguistic, cultural and social / organizational characteristics, and in doing so remain differentiated in some degree from the surrounding populations and dominant culture of the nation-state.
To the above, a criterion is usually added to also include:

peoples who are self-identified as indigenous, and/or those recognised as such by other groups.
Note that even if all the above criteria are fulfilled, some people may either not consider themselves as indigenous or may not be considered as indigenous by governments, organizations or scholars.

threaded in "they can't google, they can't wiki, what use are they?" mode

[Damp Cave]

So nothing to add again

The reason we can't debate this is because the lefties jump on ranting, irrational people like you and tar us all with the same brush.

Do you have anything to add to the debate? Do you ever? 70m waddya fink?

[SueEllen]

Thanks for your intelligent replies guys but I was trying to get a reply from the Damp Cave.

BTW the UK was predicted to be 70 million by now anyway.