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Are Labour dying a slow death?

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    #41
    Change the system not the party

    Or don't do anything and save our time thinking about politics.

    Italy's had about 40 governments since the war so was essentially ungoverned for a large part of the end of the 21st century. Their growth during that period wasn't dissimilar to the UK. This kind of proves that so long as governments don't implement crazy fool policies, a countries economy in the absence of innovation will tick along at a steady rate.

    1 party dictatorships which have done well economically:-

    1. Nazi germany 1933-1939
    2. Fascist Italy 1928-1939
    3. "Communist" China 1978 until today (average 7% growth per year in that timespan compared to 2% for UK's economy)

    The first 2 stimulated their economies by massive state investment ( a lot of it in the military obviously) - socialist policies essentially - and China's succeeded by liberating large chunks of the economy from state control and encouraging foreign investors (with low taxes) who are of the belief that there's a 1.4 billion consumer sector to exploit there - extreme capitalism.

    This week I saw 2 interesting things about China:-

    1. 26 year old woman is richest in China (net worth $16.6 billion)
    2. You can buy a good looking 16 year old wife in Yunnan province for 10000 RMB (~£600)

    One wonders how long it will be before China tears itself apart.

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      #42
      Poor daviejones.

      I pity da fool.

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        #43
        Originally posted by King Cnvt View Post
        Poor daviejones.

        I pity da fool.
        Hahaha...Head CNVT has spoken...an apt name.
        "If you can read this, thank a teacher....and since it's in English, thank a soldier"

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          #44
          Originally posted by daviejones View Post
          poll tax
          Undermined by left wing activists. Labour councils ramping up bills and blaming the new tory tax. Riots in the streets sponsored and supported by left wing groups and the unions. It is a shame that illegal activity had such an effect on policy.
          Originally posted by daviejones View Post
          grey man
          So what? He steered our country through a period of global down turn with aplomb. He also sorted out Northern Ireland.
          Originally posted by daviejones View Post
          Black Wednesday
          Speculators not the Tories. Also the switch on of a new faster computer based trading system which automatically dumped stock didnt help
          Originally posted by daviejones View Post
          recession
          A global thing and the UK came through it swimmingly with an economy so healthy and robust that even though Golden Clown has been tearing lumps out of it for 10 years it is still standing.
          I am only glad that NL will still be in power when it collapses though I would rather we had never reached this stage.
          I am not qualified to give the above advice!

          The original point and click interface by
          Smith and Wesson.

          Step back, have a think and adjust my own own attitude from time to time

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            #45
            Yeah, I want these guys in power....


            The successor to emerge from this contest was the relatively unknown figure of John Major, the candidate thought most able to unify a divided and traumatised party. Major abandoned the 'poll tax' and presented a more 'caring' image, and support for the Conservatives improved enough for him to hold on to a narrow majority in the general election of April 1992. However, this margin was steadily eroded during the following parliament, and by 1997 his administration was clinging on by its fingertips.

            The Major government of 1992-1997 was a painful period for the Conservative Party, and opinion poll ratings slumped to record lows following the economic fiasco of 'Black Wednesday' in 1992. The most serious problems were caused by a recession which hit Conservative support in southern England, a collapse of normal party unity over the increasingly contentious issue of Europe, and 'sleaze' - a string of personal scandals involving Conservative ministers and MPs. Press hostility and a modernised Labour opposition prevented the Conservatives from recovering when the economic position improved, and on 1 May 1997 they suffered their third and final sweeping defeat of the twentieth century. Only 165 MPs survived, and Major at once resigned the leadership; in his place, the Party selected its youngest leader in modern times, William Hague.

            The Conservatives were unable to recover ground during the 1997-2001 Parliament. The party remained unpopular with the public, whilst the Labour government’s careful management of the economy meant that it survived any other difficulties without lasting damage. Hague followed a more ‘Euro-sceptic’ policy, ruling out joining the single European currency. This caused tensions in the party but also led to its greatest success in the period, doubling its seats to 36 in the European Parliament elections of June 1999. However, concentration on Europe was less effective in the June 2001 general election, and Conservative hopes of at least a partial recovery were dashed. 166 MPs were elected, only one more than in 1997, and on the morning after the poll Hague announced his resignation
            "If you can read this, thank a teacher....and since it's in English, thank a soldier"

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              #46
              Originally posted by mace View Post
              1 party dictatorships which have done well economically:-

              1. Nazi germany 1933-1939
              2. Fascist Italy 1928-1939
              3. "Communist" China 1978 until today (average 7% growth per year in that timespan compared to 2% for UK's economy)
              4. Soviet Russia: 2000-present

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                #47
                So Davie did you write all that yourself or did you get some help?
                Rule Number 1 - Assuming that you have a valid contract in place always try to get your poo onto your timesheet, provided that the timesheet is valid for your current contract and covers the period of time that you are billing for.

                I preferred version 1!

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by TonyEnglish View Post
                  So Davie did you write all that yourself or did you get some help?
                  Are you STILL going on? Jeez...no I did not write that myself as I have no real interest in politics...
                  "If you can read this, thank a teacher....and since it's in English, thank a soldier"

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by daviejones View Post
                    Are you STILL going on? Jeez...no I did not write that myself as I have no real interest in politics...
                    A Labour voter. Someone who doesn't understand politics.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by King Cnvt View Post
                      A Labour voter. Someone who doesn't understand politics.
                      READ above, I a NOT a Labour voter...
                      "If you can read this, thank a teacher....and since it's in English, thank a soldier"

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