Time to rewrite History

[Bagpuss]

Yes.

And if they hadn't invented the jet engine, radar, the Spitfire and all that for us, we'd have been doomed.

Whittle presented a prototype jet engined fighter before ww2 and they declined to build it.

And don't argue till you have read all available literature on the subject. I am the bestest at everything and all, so I win!

Oooh, he'll get his Dad you know!

[DBA_bloke]

I think DBA'a got a point...they probably weren't too bothered about statistics in the middle of WW2 (unlike nowadays) - they played most things Germany did down. And when the SCUD's were on target they did a lot of damage in built-up areas....don't know if the V2 was accurate though?

Let's not forget the effectiveness of the V2. It could level a large area. And I bet it was simply too tempting to fix the figures at that very dark time in London.

[Muttley08]

Let's not forget the effectiveness of the V2. It could level a large area. And I bet it was simply too tempting to fix the figures at that very dark time in London.

I just think they had better things to do than count deaths per bomb / missile. Unlike today's attitudes with legions of civil servants, analyse and 'assess risk' culture...the attitude must have been to get on with things....

[sasguru]

I think DBA'a got a point...they probably weren't too bothered about statistics in the middle of WW2 (unlike nowadays) - they played most things Germany did down. And when the SCUD's were on target they did a lot of damage in built-up areas....don't know if the V2 was accurate though?

Completely wrong. Statistics were meticulously collected in world war 2. It's crucial to do so in a war to understand damage etc. Whether they were released at the time is a different matter.
NO missiles can do as much damage as area bombing by planes - plus rocket technology is too expensive for carpet bombing. Nuclear missiles are totally different of course

[sasguru]

Let's not forget the effectiveness of the V2. It could level a large area. And I bet it was simply too tempting to fix the figures at that very dark time in London.

Not really.

http://www.portcities.org.uk/london/...e-in-1944.html

looks like the effect a direct hit from an aerial bomb would have.

[Moscow Mule]

NO missiles can do as much damage as area bombing by planes - plus rocket technology is too expensive for carpet bombing. Nuclear missiles are totally different of course

I think that depends on your viewpoint - are you talking WWII vintage? If so then you'd have to discount Nuclear missiles as they weren't developed by then.

The reason we had to carpet bomb cities is that WWII vintage bombs and delivery vehicles are inaccurate - you can do the same amount of damage (to your intended target) with a good TLAM these days.

[DBA_bloke]

You think ????????


Lets try sticking to the facts. You seem to be quite good at this rewriting history malarky yourself

Not rewriting history. Just a very, very obvious extrapolation. Following Pearl Harbor, the US finished converting to a war economy, which was already well underway with the US's sending of weapons to the UK and to the Soviets.

Your humble apology is accepted, in advance.

[DBA_bloke]

Not really.

http://www.portcities.org.uk/london/...e-in-1944.html

looks like the effect a direct hit from an aerial bomb would have.

Some did; some didn't. I think it depended on the makeup of the target area.

[EDIT] Not saying that the picture you linked to is "wrong", but is it a picture of the epicentre? No crater, etc.

[sasguru]

Not rewriting history.

I do believe you are

Americans with V2 tech in 1940.
Amazing "secret" defences in the Uk
V2s almost "doing for us " when they only killed about 2,500.

Perhaps it's time you did what you asked Bag-o-pus to do yesterday. Tiptoe away quietly

[shaunbhoy]

If the Germans had landed they would have won In a few weeks. And don't argue till you have read all available literature on the subject

Absolute tosh, and I have read much of the available literature. You mentioned the main reason yourself, the channel.
The germans might have been able to launch some sort of airborne assault, but would have been unable to adequately re-supply and reinforce it as they would have been unable to capture or hold any port facilities that had not been put out of commission. Neither would they have been able to maintain seaborne support due to the superiority of the Royal Navy. The nazi paras would eventually have been driven back to the coast and killed or captured. Best you leave the military analysis to those of us that understand it. Why not stick to subjects you understand, like crocheting and such like?