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    #41
    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
    I do believe you are

    Americans with V2 tech in 1940.
    Amazing "secret" defences in the Uk
    V2s almost "doing for us " when they only killed about 2,500.

    Perhaps it's time you did what you asked Bag-o-pus to do yesterday. Tiptoe away quietly
    I said V2-like. i.e. big bombs capable of being sent a long way.
    We did have secret defences. Do you think it was just the barbed wire & landmines that we had? There was a lot more waiting inland.
    The V2 was regarded as a major threat. And it was getting more accurate.

    Those WWII books you are reading: are they a bit old? Loads of stuff is being released each year, and it often comes as a surprise, when compared to "accepted", printed "fact".

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      #42
      Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
      Absolute tosh, and I have read much of the available literature. You mentioned the main reason yourself, the channel.
      The germans might have been able to launch some sort of airborne assault, but would have been unable to adequately re-supply and reinforce it as they would have been unable to capture or hold any port facilities that had not been put out of commission. Neither would they have been able to maintain seaborne support due to the superiority of the Royal Navy. The nazi paras would eventually have been driven back to the coast and killed or captured. Best you leave the military analysis to those of us that understand it. Why not stick to subjects you understand, like crocheting and such like?
      Amazing! We are in agreement! I feel unwell.

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        #43
        Yes, yes, yes, but to get back to the OP what did the Romans ever do for us? Nowt. Neither did the anglo-saxons.

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          #44
          Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
          Absolute tosh, and I have read much of the available literature. You mentioned the main reason yourself, the channel.
          The germans might have been able to launch some sort of airborne assault, but would have been unable to adequately re-supply and reinforce it as they would have been unable to capture or hold any port facilities that had not been put out of commission. Neither would they have been able to maintain seaborne support due to the superiority of the Royal Navy. The nazi paras would eventually have been driven back to the coast and killed or captured. Best you leave the military analysis to those of us that understand it. Why not stick to subjects you understand, like crocheting and such like?
          You only have to look at Crete to see the world of sh1te the fallshermjaegers would have had trying to get a foothold in Britain. Plus they had air superiority in Crete which they did not have over southern england. The germans had undoubted land superiority in 1940 but the royal navy ruled the waves and the skies were heavily contested. A German invasion would have been a mighty gamble, even more so than the germans themselves realised. Their plans for operation sealion were basically a glorified river crossing, and the English channel aint no river.






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            #45
            Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
            Absolute tosh, and I have read much of the available literature. You mentioned the main reason yourself, the channel.
            The germans might have been able to launch some sort of airborne assault, but would have been unable to adequately re-supply and reinforce it as they would have been unable to capture or hold any port facilities that had not been put out of commission. Neither would they have been able to maintain seaborne support due to the superiority of the Royal Navy. The nazi paras would eventually have been driven back to the coast and killed or captured. Best you leave the military analysis to those of us that understand it. Why not stick to subjects you understand, like crocheting and such like?
            Unlike you I get my opinions from an evidence based approach based on the measured balance of the historical record. You, on the other hand, confuse thought with the random electrical impulses that occur in the few remaining neurons that exist in the shrivelled, withered and tiny organ you fondly call your "brain".
            Last edited by sasguru; 26 September 2007, 12:37.
            Hard Brexit now!
            #prayfornodeal

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              #46
              Originally posted by sasguru View Post
              Unlike you I get my opinions from an evidence based approach based on the measured balance of the historical record.


              The evidence of reading too many "Commando" comics obviously. I on the other hand read the book that followed the wargames described below. Not that difficult to draw my conclusions accordingly. Not that YOU would know jellyhead.

              In 1974 a wargame was played at the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst. The wargame involved a number of senior military men from both sides including Adolf Galland the famous Luftwaffe fighter ace and Air Chief Marshal Sir Christopher Foxley-Norris. It presumed that the Luftwaffe has not yet won air supremacy and utilised previously unpublished Admiralty weather records for September 1940.

              Even without air supremacy the Germans were able to establish a beachhead in England using a minefield screen in the English Channel to protect the initial landings from the Royal Navy. However, after a few days, the Royal Navy was able to cut off supplies from the German beachhead, isolating them and forcing their surrender.


              Game Set and Match to me................again!! It was ever thus where you are concerned sg.
              “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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                #47
                Originally posted by sasguru View Post
                Unlike you I get my opinions from an evidence based approach based on the measured balance of the historical record. You, on the other hand, confuse thought with the random electrical impulses that occur in the few remaining neurons that exist in the shrivelled, withered and tiny organ you fondly call your "brain".
                Tit.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by zeitghost
                  Cost of V2 rocket in 1940s currency: £12k

                  Cost of V1 doodlebug in 1940s currency: £100...

                  Weight of warhead: both about 1 ton.

                  Accuracy of either: might hit a barn door at 50 paces from inside the barn.

                  There was a concerted V2 attack on Lowestoft when London got out of range: no one knew about it until after the war coz none of the fecking things landed anywhere close.
                  As a lizard alien of incalculable age, your memory of WWII is better than mine. However, I do think that the V2's accuracy was getting better, and quickly, too, towards the end of the war.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post


                    The evidence of reading too many "Commando" comics obviously. I on the other hand read the book that followed the wargames described below. Not that difficult to draw my conclusions accordingly. Not that YOU would know jellyhead.





                    Game Set and Match to me................again!! It was ever thus where you are concerned sg.
                    Yes. And as everyone knows war games are infallible predictors of the real thing. You really a prize knob.
                    Hard Brexit now!
                    #prayfornodeal

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by DBA_bloke View Post
                      Tit.
                      Nork
                      Hard Brexit now!
                      #prayfornodeal

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