Oracle Contracting and rates

[King Cnvt]

Not in the Oracle world. Oracle is the Aston Martin of the software world. Everything can be bespoke and wonderful, if you think that £1K for platinum ciggy lighter or bit of carbon fibre on the air-vent is a fair price.

Why companies use Oracle with it's astounding fees is beyond me, when there are alternatives at a fraction of the cost now.

[Bagpuss]

Sounds like there is a DBA class system, mundane 40ph DBA and I can make some windows 70ph DBA.

Nice

[oracleslave]

Why companies use Oracle with it's astounding fees is beyond me, when there are alternatives at a fraction of the cost now.

Sounds like there are a lot of things beyond you. BTW I drive an Aston

[DBA_bloke]

At least?

At least?

You taking the p1ss outta Oracle DBAs?

Apps: Agreed on the rate being higher. Downside: smaller market and often on the bench, according to the few Apps DBAs I've known. Not sure if the big dollars per gig make up for the bench time. Also, I hate 11i!!! What a rickety, fiddly, often counter-intuitive, unholy mess it is. And that came from an Oracle Apps. course tutor! Getting less Heath-Robinson, though, I believe.

[DBA_bloke]

Not in the Oracle world. Oracle is the Aston Martin of the software world. Everything can be bespoke and wonderful, if you think that £1K for platinum ciggy lighter or bit of carbon fibre on the air-vent is a fair price.

Why companies use Oracle with it's astounding fees is beyond me, when there are alternatives at a fraction of the cost now.

Happily, you have no say in the RDBMS that banks use for the important stuff. Thank feck. Oracle is expensive because it's good. SQL Server, Sybase, etc.? A bunch of sad-arsed toys.

[ChimpMaster]

Happily, you have no say in the RDBMS that banks use for the important stuff. Thank feck. Oracle is expensive because it's good. SQL Server, Sybase, etc.? A bunch of sad-arsed toys.

Have to say, I like Oracle and we use it at the IB here. DB2 is nice but too techy and not user-friendly. SQL server, Sybase etc might as well be packaged with Access and give with Microsoft Office (Home, not the Pro edition).

[King Cnvt]

Happily, you have no say in the RDBMS that banks use for the important stuff. Thank feck. Oracle is expensive because it's good. SQL Server, Sybase, etc.? A bunch of sad-arsed toys.

I guess these city financial places can afford it, after all, they are making billions from sub prime mortgages aren't they.

[TheFaQQer]

Oracle DBA and Oracle Apps DBA are 2 very different things too mate.
Much like Oracle Developer and Oracle Apps Developer (me).

You can normally add at least £150 a day onto an Apps gig. At least.

I've never understood why, though! I joined Oracle as a bespoke developer, and only moved into eBusiness Suite when I left. I find Apps work less interesting, more restrictive, but better paying than bespoke work.

Apps DBA I understand even less about why they are paid more - all they do is patch and clone. The number of restrictions on what you can and can't change / tweak / tune etc. between being a bespoke DBA and and Apps DBA is huge.

So, as well as being a bespoke developer, I'm also an Apps developer, bespoke DBA, and have niche skills which earn me more as well. Cover all bases!

[DBA_bloke]

I've never understood why, though! I joined Oracle as a bespoke developer, and only moved into eBusiness Suite when I left. I find Apps work less interesting, more restrictive, but better paying than bespoke work.

Apps DBA I understand even less about why they are paid more - all they do is patch and clone. The number of restrictions on what you can and can't change / tweak / tune etc. between being a bespoke DBA and and Apps DBA is huge.

So, as well as being a bespoke developer, I'm also an Apps developer, bespoke DBA, and have niche skills which earn me more as well. Cover all bases!

Agreed! Most of the Apps. DBAs I have known have no idea at all about Oracle architecture, or anything much beyond version 7, having stuck to Apps. and its peculiar, irritating and dull ways. Still, hats off to them, they earn a lot per gig.

[ChimpMaster]

............ I'm also an Apps developer, bespoke DBA, and have niche skills which earn me more as well. Cover all bases!

I once covered all bases, on a 1st date ...it was great aye