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    #21
    Guys, if we're gonna start throwing round figures then at least post some links to verify them (And what the question was to get the percentages quoted).

    BTW Anyone else find it odd someone posting a link to an article from over 6 months ago. Not the contents of the article itself, but more the agenda that posting it implies, and why it'd been saved for 6 months before being unleashed.

    Hmm.
    Hang on - there is actually a place called Cheddar?? - cailin maith

    Any forum is a collection of assorted weirdos, cranks and pervs - Board Game Geek

    That will be a simply fab time to catch up for a beer. - Tay

    Have you ever seen somebody lick the chutney spoon in an Indian Restaurant and put it back ? - Cyberghoul

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      #22
      Have any of you actually read the Quran/Kuran?
      These Immams and lay preachers are not rabble rousers and War mongers!
      They are merely preaching the dictates of their religion.
      The Quran/Kuran clearly states that we non believers should be killed.
      The Quran/Kuran is Islamic law, therefore these people are Honest upright dedicated believers in the law.
      "We are not", therefore we should be burned with fire etc. etc. etc.
      Confusion is a natural state of being

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        #23
        Originally posted by Diver
        Have any of you actually read the Quran/Kuran?
        These Immams and lay preachers are not rabble rousers and War mongers!
        They are merely preaching the dictates of their religion.
        The Quran/Kuran clearly states that we non believers should be killed.
        The Quran/Kuran is Islamic law, therefore these people are Honest upright dedicated believers in the law.
        "We are not", therefore we should be burned with fire etc. etc. etc.
        Chapter and verse please if you are going to quote.
        I am not qualified to give the above advice!

        The original point and click interface by
        Smith and Wesson.

        Step back, have a think and adjust my own own attitude from time to time

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          #24
          Originally posted by The Lone Gunman
          Chapter and verse please if you are going to quote.

          http://www.quranm.multicom.ba/
          Confusion is a natural state of being

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            #25
            Originally posted by Diver
            Have any of you actually read the Quran/Kuran?
            These Immams and lay preachers are not rabble rousers and War mongers!
            They are merely preaching the dictates of their religion.
            The Quran/Kuran clearly states that we non believers should be killed.
            The Quran/Kuran is Islamic law, therefore these people are Honest upright dedicated believers in the law.
            "We are not", therefore we should be burned with fire etc. etc. etc.
            Have you ever read the bible? Say's that adulterers, disobedient children and homosexuals should be killed ...

            It's all about interpretation.
            Hang on - there is actually a place called Cheddar?? - cailin maith

            Any forum is a collection of assorted weirdos, cranks and pervs - Board Game Geek

            That will be a simply fab time to catch up for a beer. - Tay

            Have you ever seen somebody lick the chutney spoon in an Indian Restaurant and put it back ? - Cyberghoul

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              #26
              Originally posted by Diver
              I take it you havent read it then?

              Both "The Cow" and "The Women" state that Muslims should kill unbelievers, but there are provisos which equate to "only when they attack you".
              These chapters also state that Muslims should cease if war if the enemy ceases.
              The women also tells Muslims that killing believers condemns the killers to hell too.

              It then complicates matters by stating that non believers are an eternal enemy which could suggest that there is a constant state of war between us, but that should mean that no Muslim who believes this should be making home with us either.
              I am not qualified to give the above advice!

              The original point and click interface by
              Smith and Wesson.

              Step back, have a think and adjust my own own attitude from time to time

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                #27
                Read the rest of it before commenting
                Confusion is a natural state of being

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by snaw
                  Guys, if we're gonna start throwing round figures then at least post some links to verify them (And what the question was to get the percentages quoted).
                  Got mine fishing around here. In response to Andy's statement of '30-40% are extremists', which I find implausible, hence the improbable town-the-size-of-Liverpool-are-extremists post.

                  HTH

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Diver
                    Read the rest of it before commenting
                    I have read it all and a sizeable chunk of the Hadith too. I do not understand to what you are alluding, hence my request for chapter and verse.
                    I am not qualified to give the above advice!

                    The original point and click interface by
                    Smith and Wesson.

                    Step back, have a think and adjust my own own attitude from time to time

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                      #30
                      The Way of those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace, not (the way) of those who earned Your Anger (such as the Jews), nor of those who went astray (such as the Christians). (alfatiha 1:7)

                      Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of Believers, (altawba 9: 14)

                      And yet another translation

                      Fight against them so that Allâh will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people, (9:14)

                      But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans * wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); (altawba 9:19)
                      Confusion is a natural state of being

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