Originally posted by dang65
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Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired. - Cave Johnson -
If the charges are by the mile, sitting in a ten mile traffic jam will generate zero money. Millions of people making short school runs will continue making short school runs.
People who have to travel a long way for their work (ie most of us) will still have to queue 20 mins for the motorway, then pay for every further mile. How this will defeat congestion is beyond me.
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A seaside resort that doesn't have a train station serving the city it's a dormitory town for? That does sound disgraceful I must admit. And more expensive to live in than the city you say? A terrible situation.Comment
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Originally posted by EternalOptimistIf the charges are by the mile, sitting in a ten mile traffic jam will generate zero money. Millions of people making short school runs will continue making short school runs.
People who have to travel a long way for their work (ie most of us) will still have to queue 20 mins for the motorway, then pay for every further mile. How this will defeat congestion is beyond me.
I don't queue at all for the motorway. That's part of the reason I live further away from where I work.
Everybody has some example of why public transport is worse, but for me it's an easy walk from my house to the station, and the same at the other end. I could take the train, but if I want to be there for 9am I have to leave at 11pm the night before and wait for 7 hours at Reading station. Is that more convenient than getting in my car at 7.30am? Now let me think.Will work inside IR35. Or for food.Comment
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An idea to cut down congestion (in urban areas anyway) would be the Government to fund schools money for school coaches/mini buses to pick up children who live over a mile away from the school In this way the kids will be get to school safely& coach full of 50 children for example is potentially taking 50 cars off the road
Meanwhile, BMW man drives himself (rarely does one see more than one person in a rush hour car) 3 or 4 miles to the office, goes straight out for a Costa's coffee and a Danish pastry, then sits and reads a few websites till 9am when the woman opposite comes rushing in and dives into her chair, at which point BMW man thinks, oh well, suppose I'd better do some work. Might go for a quick fag break first though.
But it's the school run mums that have to be got off the road!Comment
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Originally posted by dang65A seaside resort that doesn't have a train station serving the city it's a dormitory town for? That does sound disgraceful I must admit. And more expensive to live in than the city you say? A terrible situation.
I have seen places abroad mostly France and Germany where I would happily use public transport to commute but ours simply does not measure up.Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired. - Cave JohnsonComment
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Originally posted by dang65It's not cheap, but it's a lot cheaper than the car.
Also the fact that there is no train station where I live and no buses until 08:00 means that there is no way I can get to a station to commute anywhere in a reasonable time unless I drive to the train station (About a 20 min drive).
For me a car is not a luxery, it is an essential.Comment
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Originally posted by ArdescoRubbish. To get to the inlaws house in london (outskirts of) costs me about £5 in petrol. The same trip taking the bus/train/tube would cost about £50 and take 2-3 times as long.
(I work 40 miles away from home. It costs me less than £7.50 a day on the train with a monthly travelcard. Fuel alone costs more than that. Bung in all the other costs of a car and I reckon it would be at least twice as much to drive in.)
Originally posted by ArdescoAlso the fact that there is no train station where I live and no buses until 08:00 means that there is no way I can get to a station to commute anywhere in a reasonable time unless I drive to the train station (About a 20 min drive).
For me a car is not a luxery, it is an essential.Comment
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Originally posted by gingerjediIt’s cheaper to live here than in the city hence the dormitory town status.
Sorry, you were saying you don't see why you should pay extra to drive in to town? What was the logic behind that again?Comment
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To be honest, what I spend on a day in petrol is around the same as the train ticket (about £30). However, if I took the train I'd reclaim £30 per day in expenses. Using my car I reclaim 40p per mile = about £80 per day.
But that's at 33mpg. If I bought a more economical car and/or started driving slower, I'd be more ahead.Will work inside IR35. Or for food.Comment
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