UK's Response to Iran: Discuss

[Mailman]

Only difference is them Eyes-raelies have some back bone and arent afraid to take action when some rags do things they really shouldnt!

Mailman

[Mailman]

An accusation without proof is a fabrication.

Eg Iraq had Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Although according to you then EVERYONE was in on this lie

The extra taxes recently levied against small businesses are in part to subsidise the floundering Middle East Wars - not to mention the Trident upgrade .

Oh look, two conspiracies rolled in to one sentence!

So which is it, which of these two is having a higher percentage of your beloved tax increases applied to? The war on terror OR the nukes that should be used to turn parts of Iran in to glass?

OR...which part of your tax dollar is being spent on the war on terror? I mean those increased taxes have absolutely nothing to do with Gordo being a fiscal rascal innit and their inability to control spending!

Still more is spent on social welfare than the war on terror...but dont let that little tid bit get in the way of a good surrender monkey arguement

The rest I deleted because its nothing more than a meaningless rant

Mailman

[DodgyAgent]

And dont forget that according to the world of pruffock the second world war was merely a bit of preparation to ready our troops for the more important task of invading Iraq 60 years later

[Clippy]

Only difference is them Eyes-raelies have some back bone and arent afraid to take action when some rags do things they really shouldnt!

Mailman

Or put another way, they flout international law and go in heavy handed with no regard for civilian casualties!

[xoggoth]

You could be right z. Good Friday is invasion day I heard.

Re: Above.

I don't agree with mailman on the Iraq war, measures to fight terrorism should actually serve that purpose, not be expensive irrelevant actions that remove valuable allies and act as a recruitment cause for the opponents, but I fully agree on Israel.

Civilised behaviour is fine while you can afford it, but when your own existence is threatened all that is a meaningless luxury. Combatants, civilians, innocent women and children, in the end and when no other options are left to you, all those are meaningless sentimental distinctions. Children become combatants, women are/beget combatants. See the programs last year on children being brought up in Palestine with no other idea than to wage holy war on Israel and the US satan that supports them? Yeh, they are cute kids but also tomorrow's market place, plane and tube bombers. I wish it was otherwise but I personally have no great problem with children like that not growing up at all.

There is a curious hypocricy in all this, fine for us to bomb Dresden or Hiroshima to bring about a quick end to WW2 and save lives, but not for the Israelis to fight for their own survival. There were no little kids or women in Dresden or Hiroshima I suppose?.

Negotiate and make compromises when possible but when no compromise appears possible, when the other side refuses to even accept your continued existence, you do whatever it takes to defend your own. At least the Israelis have the sense to realise it.

[Clippy]

Negotiate and make compromises when possible but when no compromise appears possible, when the other side refuses to even accept your continued existence, you do whatever it takes to defend your own. At least the Israelis have the sense to realise it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../03/wmid03.xml

Xog - by that yardstick, does that mean Israels' Arab neighbours who are currently pushing for peace can bomb Israel for refusing to come to the negotiating table?

Compromise is a two way street - surely Israel should initially sit down with ALL it's neighbours to, at the very least, see if their quest for peace is indeed genuine.

Unfortunately, this is the crux of the problem with Israel - peace on it's terms with little or no room for compromise.

[xoggoth]

Many positions, whether one would agree with them or not, one can at least accept as rational starting points for negotiation, restoration of the West bank and other territories taken in the 1967 war, massive compensation etc. but the principle of acceptance of the right to Israel to exist is a necessary prerequesite for any negotiations, without even that what is the point?

[Clippy]

I think the very fact that Israels Arab neighbours are prepared to sit down with them is an admission of Israels existence.

Don't forget, a lot of the Arab posturing is aimed at it's own people.

[AlfredJPruffock]

No but it would appease your guilt complex

Guilt?

Now there is a good old fashioned concept - do you suppose Blair ever feels guilty of the carange and Death he has caused by his vainglorious foreign policies ?

I doubt it as I suspect he had his personality surgically extracted some time ago.

Good to learn though he will be due 60k per annum after he leaves office for doing diddly squat - and can look forward to a pension pot of 100k per year -I guess that must explain his sickening smirk.

And those lucractive US foreign tours ...

Who wants to be a Millionaire ?

[DodgyAgent]

Guilt?

Now there is a good old fashioned concept - do you suppose Blair ever feels guilty of the carange and Death he has caused by his vainglorious foreign policies ?

I doubt it as I suspect he had his personality surgically extracted some time ago.

Good to learn though he will be due 60k per annum after he leaves office for doing diddly squat - and can look forward to a pension pot of 100k per year -I guess that must explain his sickening smirk.

And those lucractive US foreign tours ...

Who wants to be a Millionaire ?

We know about Blair's guilt. It was your guilt that was in question