Co-op

[SueEllen]

They should have released this yesterday -

BBC News - Co-op boss says sorry to 6.5m people who had data stolen in hack - BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cql0ple066po

[Protagoras]

I suppose some people do use their real name, DoB etc when registering minor products such as store 'loyalty' cards ... but I can't see the point.

I only use my 'real' data set where is unavoidable. For other minor things, providing pseudo-information helps provide protection where information is held by organisations whose data management one might not want to trust.

Leaving the current problem as. - whose data management can one trust?

[willendure]

Saw that. They kept asking my in the co-op if I wanted to sign up, and I always said no. Just no. To all of this apps and spying and personal data because it always ends the same way.

I worked with a programmer once and the company we worked for installed finger print readers in the lobby to open the gates and let you in. He refused to have his scanned and always had to go in via the side office entrance. His rational, that he didn't want his fingerprint data stolen and then 3d printed into latex and then used to gain entry in his name. The company made a big fuss about it, but I just though ******* Legend.

[sadkingbilly]

I worked with a programmer once and the company we worked for installed finger print readers in the lobby to open the gates and let you in. He refused to have his scanned and always had to go in via the side office entrance. His rational, that he didn't want his fingerprint data stolen and then 3d printed into latex and then used to gain entry in his name. The company made a big fuss about it, but I just though ******* Legend.

didn't like vaccines and 5g masts either, eh??

Legend? - Bellend, more like.

[willendure]

didn't like vaccines and 5g masts either, eh??

Legend? - Bellend, more like.

No, he was a very rational person so I don't think an anti-vaccer or 5g tinfoil hat nutjob either.

It makes sense to me. Lose your password? Maybe not such a big deal, it can be reset. Lose your bioinformatics? That could be very serious indeed. Can you really trust without actually verifying that whatever system you are scanning them into is really secure? And who would be better placed to understand the risks than a programmer.

At some point in fingerprint scanning, the finger print exists as an image. It then gets converted into a sort of signature through some kind of fourier analysis, a bit like a password hash. So maybe the risk is reduced because most likely a hacker only get the hash not the original image, but of course, whos to say the images are not left lying in some S3 bucket or something. But maybe even with the hash a hacker can get through some security check.

[xoggoth]

Oh dear. What happens when this porn site age verification comes in? The scammers will be blackmailing us, threatening to send our viewing habits to friends and relatives.

PS Not that I ever look at such things of course.

[SueEllen]

No, he was a very rational person so I don't think an anti-vaccer or 5g tinfoil hat nutjob either.

It makes sense to me. Lose your password? Maybe not such a big deal, it can be reset. Lose your bioinformatics? That could be very serious indeed. Can you really trust without actually verifying that whatever system you are scanning them into is really secure? And who would be better placed to understand the risks than a programmer.

At some point in fingerprint scanning, the finger print exists as an image. It then gets converted into a sort of signature through some kind of fourier analysis, a bit like a password hash. So maybe the risk is reduced because most likely a hacker only get the hash not the original image, but of course, whos to say the images are not left lying in some S3 bucket or something. But maybe even with the hash a hacker can get through some security check.

Finger prints aren't 100% for biometrics anyway.

BBC News - Our fingerprints may not be unique, claims AI - BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technolog...rrer=deep-link

[willendure]

Finger prints aren't 100% for biometrics anyway.

BBC News - Our fingerprints may not be unique, claims AI - BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technolog...rrer=deep-link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_McKie

You really wouldn't want your fingerprints stolen and faked and end up going through something like Shirley McKie had to. Not that that was a case of fakery, I don't think anyone ever figured out what really happened with it. But it shows how seriously the law takes the notion that fingerprint evidence is infallible.