Biden Resigns

[vetran]

After Reagan we need to be "unburdened by what has been"

Ronnie & Maggie gave us the peace with Russia that we have squandered.

[woody1]

Gorbachev gave Russia peace with the West that ex-KGB thug cum-dictator Putin has squandered.

FTFY

[Fraidycat]

This joke is not that good, but I found the depiction of Starmer is quite funny:

[vetran]

FTFY

Gorbachev was pushing to open the door, Maggie & Ronnie pulled the other side.

We squandered the opportunity by not standing up to Putin.

[woody1]

We squandered the opportunity by not standing up to Putin.

Ah, I misunderstood you. I thought you were taking the Farage/Trump stance that we (NATO/EU) squandered the peace by provoking Putin.

[vetran]

Ah, I misunderstood you. I thought you were taking the Farage/Trump stance that we (NATO/EU) squandered the peace by provoking Putin.

Yes it was a far longer game than that. Putin rose because we allowed him. Because he is not afraid of the west he attacked Crimea and Ukraine. Before Putin Russia was breaking up and obsessed by infighting, strangely a future predicted back in Gorbachev's day. We just needed to facilitate that and help dispose of the ex KGB nutters who might take over and unite Russia instead of them coming to the UK and buying football clubs

Though encouraging his neighbours to join NATO was a red rag to a mad bull.

[SueEllen]

Though encouraging his neighbours to join NATO was a red rag to a mad bull.

Stop being an apologist.

We didn't encourage them his own actions of invading a neighbouring country did.

Some people in the UK don't realise how hated Russia is in countries that neighbour it and/or were behind the iron curtain.

[vetran]

Stop being an apologist.

We didn't encourage them his own actions of invading a neighbouring country did.

Some people in the UK don't realise how hated Russia is in countries that neighbour it and/or were behind the iron curtain.

Odd that the EU and plenty of other countries want to recognise the terrorist run Hamas rape and murder terrorist state?

Russia needed careful handling for decades so does Palestine etc. If we don't take responsibility then its downhill run.

[SueEllen]

Odd that the EU and plenty of other countries want to recognise the terrorist run Hamas rape and murder terrorist state?

Russia needed careful handling for decades so does Palestine etc. If we don't take responsibility then its downhill run.

One country is in Europe, so on our collective doorsteps, while the other isn't.

[woody1]

Odd that the EU and plenty of other countries want to recognise the terrorist run Hamas rape and murder terrorist state.

Really?