Who is Charlotte Owen?

[vetran]

You can geuss what ladies would get peerages if I was PM.

[vetran]

ooh a Girlie version!!!! Not up to queen version but not bad!

[d000hg]

Odd that the non-democratic, 'corrupt' Lords is actually frequently far more sensible that the democratically elected government. I suppose the lack of accountability works both ways - when you are not always having to be popular and play politics to win elections you can actually do the things you think are important.

I think the two houses play well against each other.

[SueEllen]

Odd that the non-democratic, 'corrupt' Lords is actually frequently far more sensible that the democratically elected government. I suppose the lack of accountability works both ways - when you are not always having to be popular and play politics to win elections you can actually do the things you think are important.

I think the two houses play well against each other.

But why is a 30 year old been put in it for reasons we don't know? She can stay in it for the next 60 or so years.

[malvolio]

Odd that the non-democratic, 'corrupt' Lords is actually frequently far more sensible that the democratically elected government. I suppose the lack of accountability works both ways - when you are not always having to be popular and play politics to win elections you can actually do the things you think are important.

I think the two houses play well against each other.

You miss the point. There is a notable Labour majority in the upper house, meaning the opposition can easily block or badly delay any legislation they disagree with. If they win the next election, the Lords will be surprisingly amenable to passing all sorts of legislation again without multiple amendments.

[malvolio]

But why is a 30 year old been put in it for reasons we don't know? She can stay in it for the next 60 or so years.

For the same reason we have a 25 year old MP with no practical experience of anything, most likely on a fast track to a senior role. It's nothing to do with government or principles any more, it's a nice little earner for the otherwise unemployable.

As for why Charlotte, that's just Bojo trying to level up the numbers a little, just all his ither appointed nonentities. Her qualification are that (a) he knows who she is and (b) she worked for him and (c) she is a full on party drone.

[wattaj]

For the same reason we have a 25 year old MP with no practical experience of anything, most likely on a fast track to a senior role. It's nothing to do with government or principles any more, it's a nice little earner for the otherwise unemployable.

As for why Charlotte, that's just Bojo trying to level up the numbers a little, just all his ither appointed nonentities. Her qualification are that (a) he knows who she is and (b) she worked for him and (c) she is a full on party drone.

I feel that you are being too charitable here Old Boy: these two situations are NOT the same. One was elected (each to their own), one was chosen (reasons unknown). Both are, arguably, ill-suited to the roles that they now hold.

We should NOT conflate these two.

[SueEllen]

For the same reason we have a 25 year old MP with no practical experience of anything, most likely on a fast track to a senior role. It's nothing to do with government or principles any more, it's a nice little earner for the otherwise unemployable.

There have now been quite a few people elected as MPs who were in their 20s and early 30s when they were first elected. (I'm listening to one at the moment, and other ones I can think of include George Osborne and Michael Portillo)

As for why Charlotte, that's just Bojo trying to level up the numbers a little, just all his ither appointed nonentities. Her qualification are that (a) he knows who she is and (b) she worked for him and (c) she is a full on party drone.

There are more Tory peers in the House of Lords than other parties even before she was pushed in, so what type of levelling up is needed?

[d000hg]

You miss the point. There is a notable Labour majority in the upper house, meaning the opposition can easily block or badly delay any legislation they disagree with. If they win the next election, the Lords will be surprisingly amenable to passing all sorts of legislation again without multiple amendments.

Miss the point aka don't agree with your incredibly partisan view on every single tiny detail.

What you describe is not historically how things work. Peers are frequently critical of their party, favouring pragmatism and principle over party bias.

[SueEllen]

You miss the point. There is a notable Labour majority in the upper house, meaning the opposition can easily block or badly delay any legislation they disagree with. If they win the next election, the Lords will be surprisingly amenable to passing all sorts of legislation again without multiple amendments.

The second largest group of peers after those who are Tory peers are Crossbenchers.

As most peers are appointed affiliated to a political party the fact that they later decide to become Crossbenchers shows that the Tories cannot rely on Charlotte Owen (if she bothers to turn up) staying a Tory peer for the next 60 odd years (or however long she lives).