DOOM: NHS

[SueEllen]

No you don't. Not even if you work for them.

So you haven't heard of the postcode lottery? Or missed things like maternity reports?

[xoggoth]

Inneresting farticle in the Daily Smellygraph re the ridiculous amounts of paperwork and poor IT systems that take up a lot of time.

The senior doctor took a photograph of all the forms required for one medical admission to an NHS hospital, laid against his 5ft 10in frame.

Dr Caldwell said promises by the NHS to “digitise” the health service had simply seen needless bureaucracy transferred on to poor computer systems that were often incompatible with each other.

The specialist in general medicine and diabetes endocrinology said: “A few years ago there were estimates that nurses were spending around 50 per cent of their time on paperwork; now I’d say it’s closer to 70 per cent.”

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Almost half of hospital workers (49 per cent) and more than half of social care workers (54 per cent) said that paperwork, admin and bureaucracy caused delays in discharging patients, according to a survey by CHS Healthcare.

The firm, which partners with the NHS to improve patient flow through hospitals, also found hospital staff need to contact those involved in a patient’s discharge 31 times on average during the process.

“We also know that an average of 50 actions – such as completing paperwork, arranging transportation, and approving funding – are required to discharge a patient,” said Matt Currall, managing director at CHS Healthcare.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...nhs-hospitals/

No suprise there. Any state organisation is usually crap. In my first job we usually multiplied an estimate for work by a significant figure when it was for the public sector, due to all the inevitable cockups and changes.

[AtW]

[QUOTE=Snooky;n4250259You don't think that has anything to do with the fact that French workers and companies considerably higher levels of taxation than in the UK?[/QUOTE]

Considerably higher may have been true in the 90s, but certainly not now - next Labour Govt will certainly get there tax wise

[Zigenare]

Considerably higher may have been true in the 90s, but certainly not now - next Labour Govt will certainly get there tax wise

What the squirrel molester said!

[malvolio]

So you haven't heard of the postcode lottery? Or missed things like maternity reports?

Yes. That's down to administration and (mis-)management, not the people actually delivering the care.

[SueEllen]

Yes. That's down to administration and (mis-)management, not the people actually delivering the care.

Some of the issues mentioned in various maternity reports are down to the Individuals delivering the care not simply maladministration and mismanagement.

There is also the issue, which is the same elsewhere in the Western world, that doctors and other healthcare practitioners don't want to work in poorer areas so those areas have less clinicians.

[malvolio]

Some of the issues mentioned in various maternity reports are down to the Individuals delivering the care not simply maladministration and mismanagement.

There is also the issue, which is the same elsewhere in the Western world, that doctors and other healthcare practitioners don't want to work in poorer areas so those areas have less clinicians.

OK, but if there is a lack of resources, that is an administrative failure. If individuals aren't following the correct procedures diligently then that is a management failure. It's not like there aren't detailed, measurable standard processes in place or measures of outcomes intended to highlight underperforming staff or departments.

[vetran]

OK, but if there is a lack of resources, that is an administrative failure. If individuals aren't following the correct procedures diligently then that is a management failure. It's not like there aren't detailed, measurable standard processes in place or measures of outcomes intended to highlight underperforming staff or departments.

Sadly if you stumble its your head at fault not your legs.