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    #31
    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    It would be wrong for a Christian family NOT to bring their kids of in their faith (from their perspective), but the UK is a very secular nation these days. Statistically this is not where more than a fraction of atheists come from.
    On the flip side I suspect the number of adults who practice a religion that was not enforced upon them as a child is statistically very small.

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      #32
      Originally posted by d000hg View Post
      I do love it when atheists explain what Christianity means. Bit like how everyone in the pub always knows better than their football team's manager.
      Please provide evidence where JRM's words and actions that align to the verses quoted.

      As one of the verses said, "by their fruits you will know them". If JRM does not behave in a Christ-like manner, then I'd refer you to Matthew 25.

      Unless, as you say, I don't know him. Maybe he's one of those Sunday christians, who sings the hymns and says amen, but walks out the church door and goes back to the public person we see the rest of the time.
      …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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        #33
        Originally posted by TheDude View Post

        On the flip side I suspect the number of adults who practice a religion that was not enforced upon them as a child is statistically very small.
        Not in my experience as a practising Christian. The traditional church denominations have seen decline (although some growth during lockdown) but others have been growing - churches meeting in schools, business park buildings, houses, etc. We see lots of conversions through outreach of various types. No idea on stats but of my peers who are worshipping Christians, the majority (probably the large majority) were either non-religious as kids or came from Christian families but were not Christians until adulthood. I know fairly few Christians under 50 who would say they have always been Christians.
        I used to also assume it was dead or dying, it's a mantra antagonistic groups like to repeat.

        In other parts of the world, the church is in a period of quick growth and that's definitely through conversion rather than having babies.
        Originally posted by MaryPoppins
        I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
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        Urine is quite nourishing

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          #34
          Originally posted by d000hg View Post
          I used to also assume it was dead or dying, it's a mantra antagonistic groups like to repeat.

          In other parts of the world, the church is in a period of quick growth and that's definitely through conversion rather than having babies.
          Bit out of date but seems to be declining in the Western world, wonder if it's related to wealth/health and education. Though I know of well several educated people that are religious which always surprises me.

          Religion: why faith is becoming more and more popular | Religion | The Guardian

          These guys are doing well, nice message and seem decent guys.

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              #36
              Originally posted by woohoo View Post

              Bit out of date but seems to be declining in the Western world, wonder if it's related to wealth/health and education. Though I know of well several educated people that are religious which always surprises me.
              I think the overall stats are in decline in the west though it's not all that easy to get figures since many people disagree how to count it. People who tick the box on a form, attending a church, etc. The general theme that your traditional CofE & Catholic congregations (what people think of as the stereotype I guess) are dwindling seems quite accurate, likewise people going to church "because that's what you do" is far less the norm. I know few people who attend church who don't strongly want to be there.

              My previous church of 2-300 was predominantly university-educated (and uni students) middle class professional types and I've been to others similar but I think a general correlation between declining religious belief and developed world status is a reasonable claim.
              Originally posted by MaryPoppins
              I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
              Originally posted by vetran
              Urine is quite nourishing

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