A case for the death penalty?

[Sockpuppet]

Personally threaded found ir the other way round. He wanted to be a pilot but the silver spoon in his ass stopped him as its kept setting off the metal detector.

[Paddy]

Yep, prisons are full of people who were either born under, or destroyed under, the lovely tories.

Can't blame labour for everything my friend.

There is no excuses for what these sub humans have done.

However one should also consider the babies and children that have been maimed and killed by Tony Blair’s foreign policy in Iraq and Afghanistan. Tony Blair and his Labour cronies have blood on their hands.

[expat]

A great many families were destroyed under the tories - loss of jobs/money/houses/dignity/respect need I go on?
Living in Sunderland I still see the effects on a daily basis which have trickled down into even the next generation in some places.

Men and young lads in prison now, would have more than likely gone into ship building or mining straight from school. Instead, them (like their dads/uncles/brothers) haven't really got a lot, turn to crime,
......
I know I've went off on a tangent, and I'm not really saying that the tories are to blame for everyone in prison - but it just annoys me when people slate Labour for everything, and dont give enough thought to the fact that this country is STILL picking up the fecking pieces of the previous 20 years.

Those who believe that there is no such thing as society are condemned to ruin it.

[John Galt]

Those who believe that there is no such thing as society are condemned to ruin it.

Society and Socialism are two very different things. A society is a group of people who desire to spend time together because they have common interests - Socialism is a political doctrine that forces everyone down to a state of mediocrity as success and achievement are deplored

[expat]

A society is a group of people who desire to spend time together because they have common interests

That's a Club. Society is what arises from people living together in the same country, on the same space, or whatever. Like an accent in speech, it is what happens, not what one may or may not decide to take part in.

Saying that there is no such thing as society is like saying "I don't have an accent". Everyone does. And there is such a thing as society.

[bogeyman]

That's a Club. Society is what arises from people living together in the same country, on the same space, or whatever. Like an accent in speech, it is what happens, not what one may or may not decide to take part in.

Saying that there is no such thing as society is like saying "I don't have an accent". Everyone does. And there is such a thing as society.

Well said.

Society exists whether one likes it or not. The best we can hope for is a society in which we try to be fairly decent to one another - at the moment we're missing by a mile.

[John Galt]

That's a Club. Society is what arises from people living together in the same country, on the same space, or whatever. Like an accent in speech, it is what happens, not what one may or may not decide to take part in.

Saying that there is no such thing as society is like saying "I don't have an accent". Everyone does. And there is such a thing as society.

Yes I know. Who said there was no such thing as Society? And I am not sure I agree. For a society to work there has to be a degree of common interest - you cannot just stick a load of people together and call them a society - there needs to be a certain level of cohesion. IMHO that is what we are lacking in this country at the moment. In a socialist ideal people are forced to care more about their fellows than themselves - in a forward thinking society people will put themselves first but not to the detriment of others.

[PAG]

This story makes me angry and upset as I have a daughter similar age, the bastards should be slowly tortured and humilated for the next 60 years.

I think they should really outsource these bastards to some third world country priosn in middle of nowhere, with appalling coditions and not being treated a humans.

[bogeyman]

A great many families were destroyed under the tories - loss of jobs/money/houses/dignity/respect need I go on?
Living in Sunderland I still see the effects on a daily basis which have trickled down into even the next generation in some places.

[snip]

I agree.

Thatcher and her gang of 'hard' Tories (Tebbit, Joseph and the rest) have a hell of a lot to answer for.

I've been a Tory voter for as long as I've had a job and bob or two in my pocket, but I saw how the Tories in the 80's destroyed entire communities (specifically in the South Wales valleys).

Ok. The unions needed to be curtailed and coal production needed to be 'downsized', but the Tories didn't seem to give a tulipe what happened to the people who's livelihoods depended on coal, steel or manufacturing.

The effects of this reckless axe-wielding will be with us for many years to come in the form of social alienation and dysfunction.

If you take away people's sense of purpose and self-respect then this is the society you'll get.

[Churchill]

3 men in Leeds questioned over violent sexual assault and murder of 2 year old girl

I don't know what to say about this crime other than these men, if convicted, should never be allowed to walk as free men ever again

Two of them have been released without charge.