PCP car deal - what's the catch?

[Paddy]

https://www.ft.com/content/0e651206-...c-50ba212dce4d

There are also recent articles detailing the extent of leverage by the likes of Volkswagen Finance and other groups that act as international banks but are just car manufacturers.

With the effects of climate change obvious to more people now I think you are right and a pop would be no bad thing. Car companies are just retro fitting existing body shapes with batteries, but really they need to use new designs to accommodate new technology. Nobody wants an electric vehicle with very limited distance on fudged technology.

New car manufacturer joint ventures are likely to be the future. Won't be sad to see the back of BMW and their poorly engineered, appallingly designed electrical efforts. They are bottom of reliability indexes for good reasons.

Not another one blaming flooding on climate change, there were far worse flooding in the 50s and 60s than there are currently.

[Gibbon]

Not another one blaming flooding on climate change, there were far worse flooding in the 50s and 60s than there are currently.

Quite, in fact I was wondering the other day if any of the cacti we were persuaded to plant in Lincs in the 90's semi droughts are alive today? Climates always change, we're human , adapt. I wonder if the ancients stopped chopping down trees to stop the channel cutting them off from the main land? And what did salmon do when the mouth of the Rhine moved from the Thames to its present day position?

[ladymuck]

The changes caused by the flooding of Doggerland at the end of the last ice age were rather extensive.

Just imagine what life would be like today if that hadn't happened

https://www.nationalgeographic.org/maps/doggerland/

[vetran]

Quite, in fact I was wondering the other day if any of the cacti we were persuaded to plant in Lincs in the 90's semi droughts are alive today? Climates always change, we're human , adapt. I wonder if the ancients stopped chopping down trees to stop the channel cutting them off from the main land? And what did salmon do when the mouth of the Rhine moved from the Thames to its present day position?

shush we are all going to die how dare you suggest mother earth isn't dying because of us filthy male humans?

[vetran]

The changes caused by the flooding of Doggerland at the end of the last ice age were rather extensive.

Just imagine what life would be like today if that hadn't happened

https://www.nationalgeographic.org/maps/doggerland/

Now that really is leaving Europe! Bet Katie Hopping mad would like that.

[courtg9000]

ask the dealers how long it is taking to build you a car. Lot of news articles about chip shortages, leading to extended car build times.

Used car prices were pushed up, by people desperate to avoid public transport during covid, and wanting a car right now, rather than waiting typically 3 months before covid, for a new build. The extended car build times are also pushing people towards used cars.

Had a chat with Peugeot today. 8 months for a vehicle of my choosing with very little dealer stock anywhere remotely near the spec I want (2008, grip control and other options) and require. A similar chat with VW and delivery was over a year (T-roc 4 motion).

[caffeine man]

Had a chat with Peugeot today. 8 months for a vehicle of my choosing with very little dealer stock anywhere remotely near the spec I want (2008, grip control and other options) and require. A similar chat with VW and delivery was over a year (T-roc 4 motion).

interesting. This shows exactly why used car values are increasing, some people just do not have a choice. 8-12 months wait, for a mass produced new car, is outrageous.

[courtg9000]

interesting. This shows exactly why used car values are increasing, some people just do not have a choice. 8-12 months wait, for a mass produced new car, is outrageous.

Yes, and in my case, a specialist will need the car for another 4 weeks or so to fit specialist adaptations. (I can't use pedals anymore, except on a very short run <5 miles).
It seems everyone wants small SUV's with some type of 4wd capability.

[vetran]

interesting. This shows exactly why used car values are increasing, some people just do not have a choice. 8-12 months wait, for a mass produced new car, is outrageous.

Indeed you would have thought the car manufacturers would have planned for this, oh sorry lets blame it on brexit and deny responsibility.

To be fair it was 8-12 weeks wait for a manufactured new car 20 years ago its just got worse despite all this JIT manufacturing.

We used to build huge electrical systems (bigger than most cars) in 7 days 20 years ago.

[ladymuck]

It seems everyone wants small SUV's with some type of 4wd capability.

All those yummy mummies taking their little darlings to nursery. It's dangerous on the streets nowadays