If you ain't double jabbed, you

[northernladuk]

Most pubs and cinemas don't have 1000 people sweating and hugging everyone, crammed into a space they can barely fit. Clubs are trying to be bracketed with pubs but it is not the same experience at all. Obviously it happens sometimes in pubs but it's the exception not the rule. And even large pubs generally have smaller capacities than small nightclubs.

Where that is true I think you'll find the person per sq ft ratio will be higher in out of city towncentre pubs, not just nightclubs and there are a hell of a lot more of them. I think you can split pubs in to your local type and your town centre weekend nightlife pubs to help the distinction.

All semantics I guess but there aren't many true 'nightclubs' around compared to the nightlife pubs which I'd argue are even more tightly crammed. The irish bar in Bury is shoulder to shoulder from the door to the back of the bar. Proper nightmare trying to get to the bar/loo. Density ratio in there is worse than any nightclub I've been to.

[Gibbon]

All semantics I guess but there aren't many true 'nightclubs' around compared to the nightlife pubs which I'd argue are even more tightly crammed. The irish bar in Bury is shoulder to shoulder from the door to the back of the bar. Proper nightmare trying to get to the bar/loo. Density ratio in there is worse than any nightclub I've been to.

Yeah I remember having to queue outside some nightclubs (discos in my day) as they managed capacity, does a normal pub have a capacity limit on their licence?

[Gibbon]

I have been on the receiving end of such an injustice!

When first courting my current wife, she was invited to the VIP lounge, when I held her hand and started to go along with her they halted me and said I wasn't their type!!! Annoying thing is the wife hesitated!!!!

[vetran]

If you think a pub with live music and/or a dance-floor is comparable with a night-club, I'm not sure you've ever been to a night-club. Nor is a 1-hour gig once a week the same as a nightclub open 4 hours a night several days a week.

Different nightclubs out there.

Cinders in Camberley was hardly massive.

Even Cinderellas in Guildford is smaller than many pubs I have been in.

[Lost It]

There's a wider scope to this though? Called how much will it cost.

Our young thrusters who don't think they need to be protected against covid, at some point will spill out of the night club pissed as rats puking all over the place and getting picked up by the Police, put into the backs of vans and then potentially tossed into a cell for the night...

So at this point they discover they don't have their two jabs. Now the whole shooting match has to be "Covid cleaned". the vehicle they used, the detention centre, the cell etc. all at a quite substantial cost. All because these little darlings don't think they need a £70 jab?

Then the poor sods who have to clean the streets up, well there will be spit, puke, wee, you name it all potentially with Covid strains within it. So these poor sods will have to suit up? And throw all the gear away once it's been used.

Like someone said there is no right to go to a rave, neither should there be a right to cost the tax payer all the money needed to clean up after them.

Now if all these young idiots finish up in hospital with long covid yet again costing the tax payer thousands, that's ok because all we are concerned about is them having to prove they have had two jabs before they can be taking illegal rave type idiot pills and dancing?

Cost benefit analysis?

And sadly I have a daughter with this same mind set who doesn't think she needs the jab. Doesn't matter that I have cancer, a stoma bag hanging off my belly to catch my poo.... Kind of glad she's moving out soon.

[SueEllen]

Yeah I remember having to queue outside some nightclubs (discos in my day) as they managed capacity, does a normal pub have a capacity limit on their licence?

The ones with live music or dance floors do.

I should add I live in an area with uni students so they operate for more than just Friday and Saturday in normal times.

[northernladuk]

Yeah I remember having to queue outside some nightclubs (discos in my day) as they managed capacity, does a normal pub have a capacity limit on their licence?

I would imagine so but definitely on their insurance... but there won't be many town centre pubs that give a hoot about that at a weekend. You wouldn't queue for a pub, just go on to the next one. Again a difference between a nightlife pub and club but the same issue in both with person per sq ft being the same.

[SueEllen]

Lost It Sorry your daughter is a fool. If she is working then when she comes across someone with Long Covid who isn't "old" or someone who has had Covid more than once, then she will get jabbed.

[d000hg]

I would imagine so but definitely on their insurance... but there won't be many town centre pubs that give a hoot about that at a weekend. You wouldn't queue for a pub, just go on to the next one. Again a difference between a nightlife pub and club but the same issue in both with person per sq ft being the same.

Most town-centre pubs now seem to employ bouncers at weekends so I would imagine they probably do manage numbers. It's still not the norm for a pub to be absolutely sardined though, but it is a club.

[SueEllen]

Most town-centre pubs now seem to employ bouncers at weekends so I would imagine they probably do manage numbers. It's still not the norm for a pub to be absolutely sardined though, but it is a club.

What type of area do you live in?

I've been to pubs that are sardined and a club in the same area that is empty.