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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by mallisarealperson View Post
    To sort out the turd fest which will be the UK by 2024.
    You mean fully vaccinated, enjoying a massive recovery ahead of the EU, without yellow vest protests daily UK?

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by _V_ View Post

    Is the only outcome that makes sense.
    Make more sense than putting Mandleslime or Cummings in charge.

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  • mallisarealperson
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    Maybe they don't want to win.

    Who the hell would want to run the country at the moment. Have to a complete idiot.

    Like the one's we have at the moment.

    Labour will parachute David Miliband back, in time for the next GE. To sort out the turd fest which will be the UK by 2024.

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  • _V_
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post



    Sentient AI based government anyone?
    Is the only outcome that makes sense.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by _V_ View Post

    Policy should be around

    Stopping ALL immigration except for very high earners and the highly educated
    Investing in a LOT of new social housing
    Investing in a LOT of free training and vocational skills
    Better GP healthcare (you can actually see a proper GP when you need to)
    Not talking about the EU, the harm Brexit is doing, rejoining the EU in any way
    No more woke stuff (they don't care about Climate Change, Veganism, bending the knee, having 100+ genders)
    Much cheaper booze

    This is the sort of thing the mostly white working / underclass traditional Labour voters WANT.

    Indeed managed immigration is a must, not just cheap labour.

    New social housing is not enough we need more houses so those that don't qualify for social housing can afford to rent or buy.

    Like benefits I believe social housing should be a safety net not a way so employers can pay less wages because people have subsidised housing.

    plenty of affordable training. Free where it essential.

    Lets fix costs & outcomes etc in the NHS and prove we are doing a good job. I have had good telephone consultations with medical professionals and frequently they are much quicker for both sides.

    Mostly I have no problem tackling what you call woke stuff, it is important. However they need to do it based on data not feelings.

    Lets tackle Police Brutality, racism and effectiveness in the UK and prove we are doing a good job. Frankly the US is fried.

    Lets point out the continent most happily involved in the slave trade and longest was Africa, their biggest & longest customer were the Arabs. Lets remind people that slavery was legal and we need to leave history alone.

    Lets solve green issues by becoming the best at the technology and selling it around the world. It can be cheaper as well.

    Lets be sensitive about gender issues but lets not give rapists access to women's prisons by obtaining a £5 gender certificate.

    Lets deal with domestic violence caused by all genders.

    etc.

    Data driven government anyone?

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  • mattster
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    Originally posted by _V_ View Post

    Policy should be around

    Stopping ALL immigration except for very high earners and the highly educated
    Investing in a LOT of new social housing
    Investing in a LOT of free training and vocational skills
    Better GP healthcare (you can actually see a proper GP when you need to)
    Not talking about the EU, the harm Brexit is doing, rejoining the EU in any way
    No more woke stuff (they don't care about Climate Change, Veganism, bending the knee, having 100+ genders)
    Much cheaper booze

    This is the sort of thing the mostly white working / underclass traditional Labour voters WANT.

    The irony being that they'll get none of that with the Tories - and I think many of us are going to be in for a shock with regards to immigration, which is the one thing you might think they would tackle (although quite why anyone would think that, after 11 years of this government..).
    People might not be interested in climate change, but they should be - unfortunately it is not an easy political sell, so we are stuffed.

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  • minestrone
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    When the 'sane' left push that the tories killed 130,000 with benefits policy...

    Austerity to blame for 130,000 ‘preventable’ UK deaths – report | Health policy | The Guardian

    and 130,000 pandemic deaths are down to them as well...

    The Guardian view on Britain's pandemic record: a monument to failure | Editorial | The Guardian

    Where do they have left to go? It's going to have to be cannibalism or something

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  • _V_
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    Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
    Don't think intelligence has anything to do with it, most people of all IQs vote in their own interests.

    As per _V_'s comment, Labour is not what it was. It used to be all about putting the British working class first, now it's all about upper class ideals like globalism.
    Policy should be around

    Stopping ALL immigration except for very high earners and the highly educated
    Investing in a LOT of new social housing
    Investing in a LOT of free training and vocational skills
    Better GP healthcare (you can actually see a proper GP when you need to)
    Not talking about the EU, the harm Brexit is doing, rejoining the EU in any way
    No more woke stuff (they don't care about Climate Change, Veganism, bending the knee, having 100+ genders)
    Much cheaper booze

    This is the sort of thing the mostly white working / underclass traditional Labour voters WANT.

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  • SimonMac
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    Originally posted by DealorNoDeal View Post
    ...to actually cost the Tories any votes?

    How about getting a 17-year old girl pregnant? Would that do it?

    Or is he now virtually 100% teflon coated and, no matter what bad he does, it won't make much difference?
    Simple, have any sort of opposition for the votes to go to

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  • xoggoth
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    Don't think intelligence has anything to do with it, most people of all IQs vote in their own interests.

    As per _V_'s comment, Labour is not what it was. It used to be all about putting the British working class first, now it's all about upper class ideals like globalism.

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