DOOM: Covid-19: Oxford University vaccine shows 70% protection

[AtW]

No it's better.

"In general, a vaccine effectiveness of ~30-60% has been estimated for the three different influenza A (H1N1, H3N2) and B strains (Victoria or Yamagata lineages)."

Influenza vaccine effectiveness

On top end, yes, but 70% is no 95%.

[SueEllen]

Never had a flu jab so presumably won't need a COVID one then...

You will change your mind when you or one of your family dies of one of them or is seriously ill with/after having it.

[_V_]

70% sounds good enough to me. I'll be getting it if it means I can go on holiday again

I'm am quite relieved that people are desperate to get the vaccine. It means I can have much better data on fatalities and severe adverse reactions before it's my turn in the line.

[SueEllen]

I'm am quite relieved that people are desperate to get the vaccine. It means I can have much better data on fatalities and severe adverse reactions before it's my turn in the line.

Problem is old people die of things anyway.

[AtW]

"The vaccine, developed with the University of Oxford, showed 90% efficacy in one dosing regimen -- when the vaccine was given as a half dose, followed by a full dose at least a month later -- and 62% efficacy in a second regimen -- when two full doses were given at least a month apart. "

Oxford AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine is 70% effective on average, data shows - CNN

So 70% is average...

Now if they can definately prove first regimen gives 90% then things are good, otherwise 62% is a bit pants in comparison to mRNA stuff...

[TheGreenBastard]

The efficacy of this with multiple dosages, the temperature requirements and the dosage costs make this pretty spectacular/exceptional when you look into it. Millions of units at the ready too if/when it gets the green light.

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[AtW]

The efficacy of this with multiple dosages, the temperature requirements and the dosage costs make this pretty spectacular/exceptional when you look into it.

If it's 90%, a lot less spectacular if it's 62% (top end of flu vaccines)

Something really odd about this one ...

[jayn200]

You will change your mind when you or one of your family dies of one of them or is seriously ill with/after having it.

I don't know. My grandfather died from flu a couple years ago. I still wouldn't bother with flu vaccine.

The thing is you have some people posting here who are 30, some are mid 50s obese with diabetes and heart disease. Some are 70. Obviously we all will approach this differently.

[vetran]

Key bit here for me is "from developing symptoms". What about "from being infected and passing the infection on"?

If you are in the at main risk group that would be enough for you.

[d000hg]

"In general, a vaccine effectiveness of ~30-60% has been estimated for the three different influenza A (H1N1, H3N2) and B strains (Victoria or Yamagata lineages)."

Influenza vaccine effectiveness

On top end, yes, but 70% is no 95%.

So in your world, 70% is "the top end" of 30-60%?
70% is a very good result.

Rich people can have the expensive 95% vaccines, Oxford's can be air-dropped in all the poor dirty countries at only a couple of quid a go.