“ I owe £180,000 in tax and I haven’t told my wife”

[MaryPoppins]

But almost all trades people offer the option. In the past few years I have had guys quoting for Driveway, windows, doors, plastering, kitchen etc all give me the option. I have always opted for VAT included bank transfer instead. They have been fine with that, but surely if they offer it, plenty will take it.

What a load of balls.

[AtW]

What a load of balls.

He’s got a _V_itness who can confirm it...

[rik sherman]

I had a plumber in last week and he offered me the vat discount for cash. I paid via bank especially as I had already noticed that he had already written down the amount he was going to charge me on the invoice, all he changed was added "inc VAT" just after the number. So I wasn't going to get a discount he was going to pocket it all.

[quackhandle]

People forget that only ultra rich people and large companies can do tax evasions. Small fries like us don't stand a chance and shouldn't try these shenanigans.

And major donators to the Tory party.

qh

[Scoobos]

It's been said a million times, but not in this thread.

It's the retrospective application of it, that doesn't rest well with many. Introduce a law or close a loophole and then retrospectively charge people 10 years back, for doing something that may well be immoral, but isn't illegal.

I'd much rather HMRC get money off Amazon , It boggles my mind how they get away with paying 0.000 whatever % sales tax , all the while the DWP and HMRC , as AWS's biggest UK customers, chuck money back at them for AWS and professional services.

[Paralytic]

It's been said a million times, but not in this thread.

It's the retrospective application of it, that doesn't rest well with many. Introduce a law or close a loophole and then retrospectively charge people 10 years back, for doing something that may well be immoral, but isn't illegal.

It doesn't have to be illegal for tax to be due on it. As said above, it was patently clear from 2010 onwards that using these schemes was a high-risk choice. And it was a choice (notwithstanding a few reports where some low-paid workers were apparently told "you have to use this Umbrella if you want this job").

I'd much rather HMRC get money off Amazon , It boggles my mind how they get away with paying 0.000 whatever % sales tax , all the while the DWP and HMRC , as AWS's biggest UK customers, chuck money back at them for AWS and professional services.

Whataboutery. I'd much rather they go after all tax evasion/aggressive avoidance.

[eek]

It's been said a million times, but not in this thread.

It's the retrospective application of it, that doesn't rest well with many. Introduce a law or close a loophole and then retrospectively charge people 10 years back, for doing something that may well be immoral, but isn't illegal.

I'd much rather HMRC get money off Amazon , It boggles my mind how they get away with paying 0.000 whatever % sales tax , all the while the DWP and HMRC , as AWS's biggest UK customers, chuck money back at them for AWS and professional services.

Bollocks - that argument washed until probably 2010 but after that as DealOrNoDeal correctly points out the law was very clear....

As for Amazon when you see how much they invest in new projects it's fairly obvious that they don't actually make profits as a whole (as the profits create their next business).

[AtW]

It's been said a million times, but not in this thread.

It's the retrospective application of it, that doesn't rest well with many. Introduce a law or close a loophole and then retrospectively charge people 10 years back, for doing something that may well be immoral, but isn't illegal.

But this retrospection is legal, maybe immoral (not really) but definitely legal - so what’s your problem again?

Every time they change CGT it has retrospective effect, mostly negative (as in higher tax due)

[Gibbon]

What a load of balls.

You called Ma Lady?

[SueEllen]

I had a plumber in last week and he offered me the vat discount for cash. I paid via bank especially as I had already noticed that he had already written down the amount he was going to charge me on the invoice, all he changed was added "inc VAT" just after the number. So I wasn't going to get a discount he was going to pocket it all.

Whose sockie are you?