Real UK death rate is much larger than official figures

[IR35 Avoider]

Eyeballing the official figures, in the peak week we seem to have had 22,000 deaths in England, compared to about 10,000 expected, 12,000 extra in a week is about 1700 a day.

[sasguru]

Weekly all-cause mortality surveillance: 2019 to 2020 - GOV.UK

I see the latest report is the first one in which excess deaths are falling again.

Indeed quite a sharp drop. Lets hope it continues. Still doesn't explain that massive rise though.

[elsergiovolador]

It will be great to see how this data correlates with the big pharma bills to NHS and how people related to those dead become long term users of anti-depressants.

[sasguru]

It will be great to see how this data correlates with the big pharma bills to NHS and how people related to those dead become long term users of anti-depressants.

Yes its all a plot hatched by big pharma.

[sasguru]

From a scientific point of view, YOU are quite curious.

Doesn't make you any less dull and tedious though.

HTH BIDI

Well done you typed some words. As usual nothing that made any sort of point though. Now get the carer to wipe the drool off.

[WTFH]

It will be great to see how this data correlates with the big pharma bills to NHS.

Not sure which "big pharma" you are referring to, but the two main drugs being used currently by the NHS in treating patients are paracetamol and PneuX.

If you want to know who's making the most out of this in the UK, it's not "Big bad pharma", but company number 10881715, "Supply Chain Coordination Ltd", most of which lines the pockets of Jin Sahota.

[sasguru]

If you want to know who's making the most out of this in the UK, it's not "Big bad pharma", but company number 10881715, "Supply Chain Coordination Ltd", most of which lines the pockets of Jin Sahota.

Are they the ones responsible for PPE? And doesn't Mr. Sahota report directly to Matt Hancock as he's appointed by him? Not sure how it works?

[WTFH]

Are they the ones responsible for PPE?

Not directly.
Well, not at all, unless you think that the sole organisation they manage and run is NHSSC, and that organisation is the one that (under the advice from the company that manages and runs them) considers cost savings to mean "don't buy locally", "restrict trade", "extort suppliers" and "force your sole customer to buy through you".
So, no, they aren't responsible at all. They are only responsible to the people who appointed them and their shareholders.

And doesn't Mr. Sahota report directly to Matt Hancock as he's appointed by him?

Maybe. Are you implying it's a corrupt way for the health secretary to take money from the NHS but say he's doing them a favour?

Not sure how it works?

Simple, you're a limited company with shareholders and need to pay your staff and shareholders by making profits. The fact that those profits come directly from the NHS and then get funnelled into HMG is irrelevant.

[sasguru]

Not directly.
Well, not at all, unless you think that the sole organisation they manage and run is NHSSC, and that organisation is the one that (under the advice from the company that manages and runs them) considers cost savings to mean "don't buy locally", "restrict trade", "extort suppliers" and "force your sole customer to buy through you".
So, no, they aren't responsible at all. They are only responsible to the people who appointed them and their shareholders.


Maybe. Are you implying it's a corrupt way for the health secretary to take money from the NHS but say he's doing them a favour?


Simple, you're a limited company with shareholders and need to pay your staff and shareholders by making profits. The fact that those profits come directly from the NHS and then get funnelled into HMG is irrelevant.

Jeez. I knew the NHS was badly managed but not to this level.

[darmstadt]

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