Coronavirus (Covid 19)

[mudskipper]

Thanks

Clearly that hug emoticon should be replaced with an elbow bump!

[Whorty]

I really don't need someone mansplaining to me how the NHS prioritise treatment.

And yet you posted this .....

Doesn't help when I'm hearing stuff about how the NHS might need to decide who deserves to live more.

I wasn't trying to mansplain ... if you took it that way that's up to you ... I was simply stating that covid-19 or not, it's how the NHS works already. If you knew this already, I don't get why you're saying you are now "hearing stuff".

Stay safe, and don't join the panic that is being pushed in this country by media and social media.

[AB1]

What you heard is that there may be two strains, and one may be more virulent than the other. However, the latest science - of course subject to change - is that there is one strain with expected genetic variability within that strain, but nothing that really affects its virulency or infectiousness.

Here's an article that explains virus mutations. Coronavirus mutations: Much ado about nothing - CNN

Many vaccines to RNA viruses, such as yellow fever, measles, and mumps, were developed throughout the 1930s-70s and are all still highly effective. And those viruses mutate at rates as fast or faster than coronaviruses. In fact, the two proposed "S" and "L" coronavirus strains only differ by two mutations and are 99.993% identical. It's extremely likely that any vaccine designed for one coronavirus will be protective against the other.

My main point when I made that comment was that, if this government was successful in implementing this planned "herd immunity" by allowing 60% of the population to become infected, would a simple further mutation of the virus mean that the population was no longer immune to it? Which would therefore almost render the governments plan as moot. I was simply questioning the effectiveness of the government's plan to implement herd immunity.

This article also states that the new strain of the virus (the L type) is more aggressive than its former (the S type), which is why it is the more prevalent one (I've seen it elsewhere too and do not dispute anything that you've stated other than the fact that this new strain is not more virulent): Coronavirus: Are there two strains and is one more deadly? | New Scientist

[NotAllThere]

My main point when I made that comment was that, if this government was successful in implementing this planned "herd immunity" by allowing 60% of the population to become infected, would a simple further mutation of the virus mean that the population was no longer immune to it?

Possibly, but there's no reason to think it is inevitable - quite the opposite. See the bit I quoted in italics.

But let's say there was a mutation that affected people's immunity. The chances are that it would only render the vaccine partially ineffective. Furthermore, the new strain would be competing with the old strain. Finally, the mutation may cause other changes that render the virus less infectious, or shorten the infection time - or make it so lethal that it kills whomever it comes into contact, which is very effective for stopping it spreading. Corpses don't sneeze.

[scooterscot]

Ah well.

Didn’t get there in the end. Jet2 bounced all the flights.

It appears that no-one is taking any notice of the Foreign Office or the Government now.

Garmisch still open open or business ;-)


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[GhostofTarbera]

My main point when I made that comment was that, if this government was successful in implementing this planned "herd immunity" by allowing 60% of the population to become infected, would a simple further mutation of the virus mean that the population was no longer immune to it? Which would therefore almost render the governments plan as moot. I was simply questioning the effectiveness of the government's plan to implement herd immunity.

This article also states that the new strain of the virus (the L type) is more aggressive than its former (the S type), which is why it is the more prevalent one (I've seen it elsewhere too and do not dispute anything that you've stated other than the fact that this new strain is not more virulent): Coronavirus: Are there two strains and is one more deadly? | New Scientist

Hancock was trying to distance the government from the herd immunity on Andrew marr show this morning - it’s not government policy he said


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[scooterscot]

In two weeks, we will discover it's all a hoax. On April 1st, Boris, Trump and other world leaders will appear on TV and shout "April Fool!"

If only it would stop the pair of them behaving like fools for the remaining 364 days of the year.

[darmstadt]

Hancock was trying to distance the government from the herd immunity on Andrew marr show this morning - it’s not government policy he said


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Really? I wouldn't believe a word he says. Is this the same Hancock:

Matt Hancock's latest coronavirus update has been met with ridicule - after the link he included with an update on his plan required people to pay to read it.

The health secretary used a column in the Tory-supporting Sunday Telegraph to update the public on what the government was doing next to tackle the COVID-19 disease.
But as he posted a link to the story, which revealed its next phase of its plans, it appeared behind a newspaper paywall which followers could not read without subscribing.

[AtW]

Shut the fook down everything - 3-4 weeks, there will be plenty of opportunities to try herd idea in autumn/winter, with more equipment and hopefully some anti-virals targeting this virus, ffs - China did it, this can be done

[GhostofTarbera]

Coronavirus (Covid 19)

Really? I wouldn't believe a word he says. Is this the same Hancock:

He also said car and engineering firms should build iCU equipment, marr pointed out it needs 5 nurses per bed + 8 years doctor training

He just looked blank and said they were turning existing operating rooms into icu as the had oxygen into them already

I have bluffed a few contract roles over the years with extra skills but this man is clueless




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