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    The fact is the US congress won't approve any deal with the UK if the UK doesn't come to an agreement with Ireland. Ireland is a signatory to the Good Friday Agreement and if they say it's been broken then bye bye US deal.
    I'm alright Jack

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      Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
      Really??????

      You have made one massive unjustifiable leap, ( I was going to say reasoning but you clearly don't have any).
      Is it unjustified to say that enforcing a border in Ireland could reignite The Troubles?

      No.

      Please prove otherwise.


      Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
      Please explain, in detail with references, how a hard Brexit reignited the troubles.
      By enforcing the border between the UK and Ireland, in breach of the GFA and years of effort at maintaining peace.

      https://assets.publishing.service.go.../agreement.pdf
      http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegDat...9583116_EN.pdf
      What is the Good Friday Agreement, why was it drawn up in 1998 and did the Anglo-Irish deal bring peace to Northern Ireland?

      Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
      There is always a solution to the Irish border.
      Please explain in detail with references your proposed solution to the Irish border. I've asked so many times, but rather than providing one the only response is "it's easy" and "there's always a solution"

      Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
      Please explain, in detail with references, why a hard border has no border solution in Ireland
      Please explain, with detailed reference to English grammar and sentence structure, what you actually meant in the above.
      …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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        Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
        The fact is the US congress won't approve any deal with the UK if the UK doesn't come to an agreement with Ireland. Ireland is a signatory to the Good Friday Agreement and if they say it's been broken then bye bye US deal.
        That is up to the USA.

        The only important thing is the the UK leaves NOW. Unless the UK can stay that is. But it must be done quickly.

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          I've no doubt the Brexiteers will argue that the US needs the UK more than the UK needs the US and therefore the US congress will cave.
          I'm alright Jack

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            Originally posted by WTFH View Post
            Is it unjustified to say that enforcing a border in Ireland could reignite The Troubles?

            No.
            Enforcing a border would probably kick the troubles off again. It must not happen.

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              Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
              That is up to the USA.

              The only important thing is the the UK leaves NOW. Unless the UK can stay that is. But it must be done quickly.
              Why must it be done quickly? What are the tangible benefits to doing it quickly, compared to doing it slowly and carefully?

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                Originally posted by meridian View Post
                Why must it be done quickly? What are the tangible benefits to doing it quickly, compared to doing it slowly and carefully?
                It has to be done while there is still a chance of mustering a majority for Leave or at least pointing to a majority in the recent past. Their majority is slowly disappearing. If they can just get out now they might be able to head off the much feared Remain resurgence.
                I'm alright Jack

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                  Originally posted by meridian View Post
                  Why must it be done quickly? What are the tangible benefits to doing it quickly, compared to doing it slowly and carefully?
                  The uncertainty is very damaging to the UK. And slightly damaging to the EU.

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                    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
                    Is it unjustified to say that enforcing a border in Ireland could reignite The Troubles?

                    No.

                    Please prove otherwise.




                    By enforcing the border between the UK and Ireland, in breach of the GFA and years of effort at maintaining peace.

                    https://assets.publishing.service.go.../agreement.pdf
                    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegDat...9583116_EN.pdf
                    What is the Good Friday Agreement, why was it drawn up in 1998 and did the Anglo-Irish deal bring peace to Northern Ireland?



                    Please explain in detail with references your proposed solution to the Irish border. I've asked so many times, but rather than providing one the only response is "it's easy" and "there's always a solution"


                    Please explain, with detailed reference to English grammar and sentence structure, what you actually meant in the above.
                    The grammar and sentence structure we're fine. It was just a semantic mess.

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                      Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
                      It has to be done while there is still a chance of mustering a majority for Leave or at least pointing to a majority in the recent past. Their majority is slowly disappearing. If they can just get out now they might be able to head off the much feared Remain resurgence.
                      So you don't believe in democracy?

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