Social mobility and class

[Yorkie62]

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[northernladuk]

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[meridian]

I'm surprised no one has yet provided a you tube link to the sketch featuring Pete, Dud, Cleese, et al to explain the class system

Probably because although it’s funny, it’s not that helpful.

Does “class” only depend on who you look down upon? Seems an odd way to define it.

[meridian]

No working class on here, then.

[DimPrawn]

What class mobility means in Swindon

[vetran]

No working class on here, then.

oh we look down on you

[meridian]

oh we look down on you

Sure, if you like. Looking down on people doesn’t make the lookees working class, though, it only says more about you.

It’s a genuine question, which I thought someone on here might at least have an attempt at. What makes someone “working class”?

Personally, my Dad left school with no qualifications, finished his trade in the 60s as a mechanic, worked for a while in the family trade (saw milling) and then retrained in his late 30s as a drainlayer. Yet I’ve never seen ourselves as “working class”.

From what you say, as long as there’s someone to look down upon then you’re not working class?

[Yorkie62]

Sure, if you like. Looking down on people doesn’t make the lookees working class, though, it only says more about you.

It’s a genuine question, which I thought someone on here might at least have an attempt at. What makes someone “working class”?

Personally, my Dad left school with no qualifications, finished his trade in the 60s as a mechanic, worked for a while in the family trade (saw milling) and then retrained in his late 30s as a drainlayer. Yet I’ve never seen ourselves as “working class”.

From what you say, as long as there’s someone to look down upon then you’re not working class?

Did you ever think about trying Google search "Working Class Definition"

From Wikipedia

The working class (or labouring class) comprises those engaged in waged or salaried labour, especially in manual-labour occupations and industrial work.[2] Working-class occupations (see also "Designation of workers by collar color") include blue-collar jobs, some white-collar jobs, and most pink-collar jobs. Members of the working class rely for their income exclusively upon their earnings from wage labour; thus, according to the more inclusive definitions, the category can include almost all of the working population of industrialized economies, as well as those employed in the urban areas (cities, towns, villages) of non-industrialized economies or in the rural workforce.

In Marxist theory and socialist literature, the term working class is often used interchangeably with the term proletariat and includes all workers who expend both physical and mental labour (salaried knowledge workers and white-collar workers) to produce economic value for the owners of the means of production (the bourgeoisie in Marxist literature).[3]

[jds 1981]

Did you ever think about trying Google search "Working Class Definition"

From Wikipedia

The working class (or labouring class) comprises those engaged in waged or salaried labour, especially in manual-labour occupations and industrial work.[2] Working-class occupations (see also "Designation of workers by collar color") include blue-collar jobs, some white-collar jobs, and most pink-collar jobs. Members of the working class rely for their income exclusively upon their earnings from wage labour; thus, according to the more inclusive definitions, the category can include almost all of the working population of industrialized economies, as well as those employed in the urban areas (cities, towns, villages) of non-industrialized economies or in the rural workforce.

In Marxist theory and socialist literature, the term working class is often used interchangeably with the term proletariat and includes all workers who expend both physical and mental labour (salaried knowledge workers and white-collar workers) to produce economic value for the owners of the means of production (the bourgeoisie in Marxist literature).[3]

Sounds like an an American view on class.

[Yorkie62]

Sounds like an an American view on class.

All the definitions are generally the same

Working Class Cambridge Dictionary defiinition
"a social group that consists of people who earn little money, often being paid only for the hours or days that they work, and who usually do physical work:

The working class usually react/reacts in a predictable way to government policies."

Middle Class Cambridge Dictionary defiinition
"UK a social group that consists of well-educated people, such as doctors, lawyers, and teachers, who have good jobs and are not poor, but are not very rich:

The upper middle class tend to go into business or the professions, becoming, for example, lawyers, doctors, or accountants."

Upper Class Cambridge Dictionary defiinition
" a social group consisting of the people who have the highest social rank and who are usually rich:

The upper classes usually send their children to expensive private schools."