do you think the courageous activists feel a bit stupid now?

[NotAllThere]

In this instance the perp had a legal right to be in the UK as he'd been granted refugee status as a little boy. The government has a legal right to deport him, and he lost his right to be in the UK, because he committed a serious crime.

[vetran]

In this instance the perp had a legal right to be in the UK as he'd been granted refugee status as a little boy. The government has a legal right to deport him, and he lost his right to be in the UK, because he committed a serious crime.

You know where Somalia is and about the Dublin convention then? Or do we assume he flew straight here?

[NotAllThere]

You know where Somalia is and about the Dublin convention then? Or do we assume he flew straight here?

The UK granted him refugee status. Therefore he was legally in the UK. The Dublin convention concerns where someone first applies for asylum - not where they first arrive in Europe.

Or do you assume that all Somalian refugees in the UK are in the UK illegally?

[vetran]

The UK granted him refugee status. Therefore he was legally in the UK. The Dublin convention concerns where someone first applies for asylum - not where they first arrive in Europe.

Or do you assume that all Somalian refugees in the UK are in the UK illegally?

Wrong as usual


Refugees must seek asylum in first EU country reached: court - The National

The European Union's top court upheld the Dublin Regulation, which states that refugees must seek asylum in the first place they reach.

G20 leaders agree refugees should claim asylum in the first safe country they reach | Politics | News | Express.co.uk

Britain cannot deport asylum seekers who have 'no place to go', says minister - Telegraph

[Eirikur]

maybe snowflakes interfering in justice?.

Just like those br€xit€€rs and news papers threatening supreme court judges and Gina Miller when she went to court over Br€xit?

[NotAllThere]

The UK granted him refugee status. Therefore he was legally in the UK. The Dublin convention concerns where someone first applies for asylum - not where they first arrive in Europe.

Or do you assume that all Somalian refugees in the UK are in the UK illegally?

Wrong as usual

Yes. You are.

G20 leaders agree refugees should claim asylum in the first safe country they reach | Politics | News | Express.co.uk I've highlighted the key word for you there. Yes, they should, but if they don't?

Refugees must seek asylum in first EU country reached: court Yes, they have ruled that. The case in the link is for people who were already registered in Croatia. But the fact remains that if someone is not registered in the first country they reach, there is no way of confirming that the country they first claimed asylum/refugee status isn't the first country they reached. In practice, therefore, it's the first country of registration that matters.

Even so, there's nothing in the Dublin Convention that stops countries from accepting a migrant registered elsewhere. If you'd bothered to read the links you posted to the end, you'll see that Germany suspended its adherence to Dublin in exactly this way.

Therefore, and this is the important bit, your contention that Sonny Jim was in the UK illegally, simply by virtue of having come into the UK via another European country, is is incorrect.

So that's at least two demonstrably false things vetran has said in this thread.
1. The passengers knew that that the perp was a rapist
2. The perp was in the UK illegally.

Anymore?

[sasguru]

So that's at least two demonstrably false things vetran has said in this thread.
1. The passengers knew that that the perp was a rapist
2. The perp was in the UK illegally.

Anymore?

You're not saying that vetran (sic) doesn't know what he's talking about, are you? Shirley not!

[vetran]

So that's at least two demonstrably false things vetran has said in this thread.
1. The passengers knew that that the perp was a rapist
2. The perp was in the UK illegally.

Anymore?

I never said the first.

The second I produced international agreements that as you say governments now ignore.
So neither were false.

[NotAllThere]

So that's at least two demonstrably false things vetran has said in this thread.
1. The passengers knew that that the perp was a rapist
2. The perp was in the UK illegally.

Anymore?

I never said the first.

I think you'll find you did.

well watch the video and its pretty clear, the deportee was trying any trick in the book to get sympathy from a bunch of idiots who believe its unfair to legally deport rapists.

So which is it? Are you a moron, a liar or senile?

(To be fair, I'll go with drunk).

[TwoWolves]

It's hard to say what was going through the minds of the other passengers however I suspect one or two were activists who knew exactly what was happending and why. There's a lot of that of late.

Regardless, it was clearly a deportation and considering how hard it is to get one in spite of henious crimes it is high time the average joe respected the legal process enough to leave be. We can only hope.