IT staff from India

[SueEllen]

The problem is that the political group most enthusiastic about immigration, the left also want those immigrants to be a state-dependent politically malleable voting bloc. That is, economically useless - hence the antipathy towards independent and productive immigrants such as Jews and Poles.

Immigrants from the EU excluding Ireland can't vote in any elections worth anything so by letting them in the left don't actually help themselves.

Non-EU citizens can't vote until they get British citizenship many years down the line, and tend to come from more conservative backgrounds. They only vote for left wing parties due to the utterances of people like Farrage and B. Johnson in the media against them.

[meridian]

Immigrants from the EU excluding Ireland can't vote in any elections worth anything so by letting them in the left don't actually help themselves.

Non-EU citizens can't vote until they get British citizenship many years down the line, and tend to come from more conservative backgrounds. They only vote for left wing parties due to the utterances of people like Farrage and B. Johnson in the media against them.

Not quite. Commonwealth citizens tend to have a vote in most things.

[original PM]

Immigrants from the EU excluding Ireland can't vote in any elections worth anything so by letting them in the left don't actually help themselves.

Non-EU citizens can't vote until they get British citizenship many years down the line, and tend to come from more conservative backgrounds. They only vote for left wing parties due to the utterances of people like Farrage and B. Johnson in the media against them.

Or they vote for left wing parties because they literally buy the vote by giving them free stuff at the expense of the local indigenous population.

But you know that's just a different point of view.

[BlasterBates]

The problem is that the political group most enthusiastic about immigration, the left also want those immigrants to be a state-dependent politically malleable voting bloc. That is, economically useless - hence the antipathy towards independent and productive immigrants such as Jews and Poles.

It was the Labour party that encouraged Polish immigration over Asian immigration, it is now the Tories blocking Polish immigration and replacing it with immigration from other countries as recent statistics are demonstrating.

The Tories have successfully hit the bump in the carpet with a mallet, i.e. EU migration has dropped to 0 and a new one has popped up.

[vetran]

It was the Labour party that encouraged Polish immigration over Asian immigration, it is now the Tories blocking Polish immigration and replacing it with immigration from other countries as recent statistics are demonstrating.

The Tories have successfully hit the bump in the carpet with a mallet, i.e. EU migration has dropped to 0 and a new one has popped up.

I do hope you have nothing to do with facts in your job!


https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...todecember2017

Net migration has fallen following record levels in 2015 and early 2016, and has been broadly stable since. This is similar to the level recorded in year ending September 2014. Underlying this, immigration has remained broadly stable at around 630,000 and emigration has shown a gradual increase since 2015 and is currently around 350,000.

EU net migration continues to add to the UK population with around 100,000 more EU citizens coming to the UK than leaving. The estimated number of EU citizens coming to the UK “looking for work” continued to decrease over the last year and the number coming to the UK for a definite job has remained stable.

Since 2014, non-EU IPS estimates and Home Office data on long-term work visas show those coming to the UK to work have remained relatively stable, with increases for those on skilled work visas.

[BlasterBates]

I do hope you have nothing to do with facts in your job!


https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...todecember2017

I stand corrected but the principle is the same



i.e. as EU migration has decreased so non-EU migration has increased, so it is clear that the "decision" in 2016 is having and will have no effect on what it was all about.

[CoolCat]

Not quite. Commonwealth citizens tend to have a vote in most things.

Commonwealth citizens get to vote in our elections, even if only here with temporary status like student visas.

Meanwhile Brits on the whole cannot vote in their countries when the situation is reversed.

[GhostofTarbera]

Yet more staff


https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/10...igration-watch

[NotAllThere]

Yet more staff


https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/10...igration-watch

The times cover the same story.