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Doing well thanks. In for the long term so I'll take thatOriginally posted by scooterscot View PostUp almost 60%
How's your 24% FTSE 100 index return doing?
Net gain, in an ISA wrapper, of over £20k so what's not to like?
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Originally posted by Whorty View PostDoing well thanks. In for the long term so I'll take that
Net gain, in an ISA wrapper, of over £20k so what's not to like?
Ask yourself this question - am I happy with the value of my investment today being of the same value by 2030?
If yes - fill your boots.
If no - well don't say I din't warn you."Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark TwainComment
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I actually share scoot's sentiment about the stock market. Fine if you're a trader, but there's no way I'd buy & hold US stocks.
The UK stock market does not seem over-extended but, if the US tanks, it will drag stock markets everywhere down with it.
My plan is to ride the gold bull run for as long as it lasts. When the gold bull ends, that might be time to switch back into stocks.Scoots still says that Apr 2020 didn't mark the start of a new stock bull market.Comment
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You forget, these are just a part of my savings. Unlike you I'm not looking for high risk assets from which to earn an income. So long as they beat inflation then I'm in the black; anything else on top is gravy.Originally posted by scooterscot View PostAsk yourself this question - am I happy with the value of my investment today being of the same value by 2030?
If yes - fill your boots.
If no - well don't say I din't warn you.
So no, if they are the same in 2030 as today they won't have kept in line with inflation and my 'cash' value would have eroded, however in all the time I have held funds I have always received good growth.
I can also sleep at night knowing I can earn well in excess of £100k a year, risk free, just by selling my skills. And that is in low pressure roles. I could earn more if I'm willing to have an early stroke
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50% in just a little over 3 months - take that AMD.


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AMD is up 80% from the covid collapse.Originally posted by scooterscot View Post50% in just a little over 3 months - take that AMD.



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But, and i don't want to p1ss on your parade, based on your original stake of c.10k, this is only 5k 'income'. Less than half of what most contractors on here earn each month. Great as a side line like Ziggy is doing in his hobby, but as a main income you need to earn twice this, each month, to match a typical UK IT contractor.Originally posted by scooterscot View Post50% in just a little over 3 months - take that AMD.


So yes, a nice profit as a side line, but nowhere near enough as a main income (and still £15k less than I have made in that same period via my ISA
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Last edited by Whorty; 28 July 2020, 14:59.I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man
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Scootie clearly lacks sufficient capital to make it (get good regular income from trading) work in theory and brains to make it work in practice.
Also, if I am not mistaken - in the UK once one starts getting regular "income" from trading then it gets taxed as income rather than Capital Gains.
Naturally not a problem for Scootie since he lives in Germany where everything (according to him) is tax free.Comment
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