Well done Iceland

[grabri]

But having it done at 16/18 is a major thing. I know someone who had it done for medical reasons as an adult. For a baby it's not barbaric or traumatic. They have no recollection of it.

My point isn't about how painful that it is. It's about parents that mutilate their children in the name of religion.

[NotAllThere]

My point isn't about how painful that it is. It's about parents that mutilate their children in the name of religion.

Since secular Jews and non-believing Jews often circumcise their kids, it's rather in the name of culture, rather than religion.

[d000hg]

It's not mutilation. At least not according to the dictionary. It's a trivial operation.

[grabri]

I concede that it may be more of a cultural convention than a religious one - doesn't make it right though.

So where would you like to draw the line - male circumcision is OK? female circumcision? branding? facial tattoos?

[NotAllThere]

I concede that it may be more of a cultural convention than a religious on - doesn't make it right though.

So where would you like to draw the line - male circumcision is OK? female circumcision? branding? facial tattoos?

Female circumcision causes massive health issues for women and should be entirely eradicated. It is of an entirely different order to male circumcision. As for branding and tattoos - which cultures do this?

[grabri]

Female circumcision causes massive health issues for women and should be entirely eradicated. It is of an entirely different order to male circumcision. As for branding and tattoos - which cultures do this?

Female v Male circumcision I entirely agree - not trying to equate the two. Just trying to figure out what degree of mutilation is acceptable to those that are advocates of male circumcision and who makes that decision?

[greenlake]

It's not mutilation. At least not according to the dictionary. It's a trivial operation.

But sometimes, it's just so inconvenient....

[Mordac]

In your opinion. Ask Jews what they want. We're in danger of practising the tyranny of the majority.

How many would be willing to sign up to having it done at bar-mitzvah time? Thought not...

[scooterscot]

It's mutilation without individual consent.

When that consent is given, for whatever reason, fine. Otherwise a law to prosecute those that would harm others is logical in my book.

[meridian]

It's mutilation without individual consent.

When that consent is given, for whatever reason, fine. Otherwise a law to prosecute those that would harm others is logical in my book.

How do you feel about ear piercings on 2 year olds (and younger) then?