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Originally posted by Mordac View PostYou mean Scotland?
I saw when as they are blooming useless when dealing with resourcing panics - leaving me with the question of which of their clients should I pee off more. They don’t seem to get I don’t need to caremerely at clientco for the entertainmentComment
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Originally posted by woohoo View PostJust saying the jocks get sensitive if you call them jocks.
and i wouldn't call what happens then particularly sensitiveComment
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Originally posted by darmstadt View PostCan you call them 'sweaties' instead?His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...Comment
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostErm.. Guys n gals... I'd drop the Bob term before Cojak turns up. Not very PC anymore. Was OK back in the day of our long since departed esteemed coder but I've a feeling it's frowned upon now it's become a generic term.His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...Comment
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Originally posted by Mordac View PostWhat's the problem, "Bob" is slang for a shilling (or 5p, for our younger readers) which is typically about 4p too much..."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostUnfortunately how we have used it on the forum means it no longer translates as cheap overseas worker.
I have chosen to simply edit the term when I see it. From now on I’ll send the person a warning before I start banning."I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
- Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...Comment
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I think in all of this it is important to recognise that the behaviour of the indians in the off shoring firms only exist because of the companies they work for.
The first thing to recognise is that the sole interest of these firms is to make money out of you - they do not care about your project, your company or your goals - they will make as much money out of you and will happily crap on your project if it means they can get an extra few days consultancy out of it.
These guys you are talking to are given a cut of every single extra days consultancy they can screw out of you by insisting it is a change request to a spec you agreed over a crackly line to indian at 6 am 6 months ago.
The company I am with spanked 5 million with IBM - while 5 million seems a lot of money to companies such as IBM it is peanuts - probably less than that and they will happily hoover up that 5 million in green fees etc before you even write a line of code.
My brother works for a large global corp who are replacing their global billing platform - that project is running into the 100's of millions and they get good service - go figure.
The reason you are starting to see it from some of our eastern european friends is not because they have changed but because they now work for companies with cultures as described above.
So moral of the story - unless you are going to spend 100's of millions of quids do not use IBM or any other large company who does 'IT consultancy and offshoring'Comment
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Originally posted by cojak View PostThis.
I have chosen to simply edit the term when I see it. From now on I’ll send the person a warning before I start banning.If your company is the best place to work in, for a mere £500 p/d, you can advertise here.Comment
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Originally posted by cojak View PostThis.
I have chosen to simply edit the term when I see it. From now on I’ll send the person a warning before I start banning.
I'm reminded of the interview in the US of Russel Brand on a black radio or tv station. He was told off for saying we are all descended from apes or monkeys and there was big "no that's racist you cant say that". He was like yeah lets reclaim the word monkey why should the racists win. That's the only time I've agreed with him.
What about if I have an Indian mate called Bob, can I still say Bob in that context? Where does it end cojak?Comment
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