So Corbyn's election pledge to scrap tuition fees was a 'free' win if the majority don't already pay off the loan anyway.
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77% of graduates won't pay all of their student loan back before they die
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Originally posted by xoggoth View PostAs others have said above, if students are not paying off their loans it shows their degrees were of little benefit.
A friend who studied psychology and then his Phd in clinical psychology began practising after 7 years of study for £22k in the NHS. The next grade was up to a maximum of £44k after 10 years of practice. That is utterly appalling. Clinical phycologists are lacking in the country. It is one of those professions whereby most clinicians know each other. Mental health is becoming a big issue now and more so in the years to come.
Mental health is one of the most foreseeable issues of the present day we're sleepwalking into a crisis in the years ahead. The government should be planning for those years ahead but instead it pursues populist agenda and skank renumeration for those professions that are needed most.
In fact it was a solid reason for leaving the UK myself, Engineering qualification then studied a masters in operational research (no loans I should say, worked in the summer semesters) and then offered I think it was £23k.
Bottom line, the UK does not value skilled professionals. And until the lust for financial wizards dissipates nothing will change. Perhaps the collapse of the city would be a good thing for the country if Brexit delivers this."Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark TwainComment
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So Corbyn's election pledge to scrap tuition fees was a 'free' winbloggoth
If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)Comment
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Originally posted by xoggoth View PostBut does that make much sense in the long term? Migrants will eventually age too and most indicators suggest that lifespan will continue to increase for a while yet. If the retirement age stays the same, today's hard working youth will spend even longer as net recipients of the state and, as more will have been in higher education, often pointlessly, they will contributed less to the tax system.
(And yes they would take their newly found husband/wife with them.)"You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by scooterscot View PostI disagree.
A friend who studied psychology and then his Phd in clinical psychology began practising after 7 years of study for £22k in the NHS. The next grade was up to a maximum of £44k after 10 years of practice. That is utterly appalling. Clinical phycologists are lacking in the country. It is one of those professions whereby most clinicians know each other. Mental health is becoming a big issue now and more so in the years to come.
Mental health is one of the most foreseeable issues of the present day we're sleepwalking into a crisis in the years ahead. The government should be planning for those years ahead but instead it pursues populist agenda and skank renumeration for those professions that are needed most.
In fact it was a solid reason for leaving the UK myself, Engineering qualification then studied a masters in operational research (no loans I should say, worked in the summer semesters) and then offered I think it was £23k.
Bottom line, the UK does not value skilled professionals. And until the lust for financial wizards dissipates nothing will change. Perhaps the collapse of the city would be a good thing for the country if Brexit delivers this.Comment
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They probably did Celtic studies.
https://www.thecompleteuniversitygui...onal-premiums/
Most of those show a decent starting wage.Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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I disagree
Got an engineering degree myself and have been used to earning about half what some on here earned in banking etc. any excessive reliance on one sector has risks and the overemphasis on financial services is worrying, too easy for others to target, for political as well as technical reasons. The health sector generally is lacking, it is very difficult to get a place to study.
Trouble is, I have little confidence in government making reliable decisions on what we need for the future.bloggoth
If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)Comment
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Originally posted by scooterscot View PostI disagree.
A friend who studied psychology and then his Phd in clinical psychology began practising after 7 years of study for £22k in the NHS. The next grade was up to a maximum of £44k after 10 years of practice. That is utterly appalling. Clinical phycologists are lacking in the country. It is one of those professions whereby most clinicians know each other. Mental health is becoming a big issue now and more so in the years to come.
Mental health is one of the most foreseeable issues of the present day we're sleepwalking into a crisis in the years ahead. The government should be planning for those years ahead but instead it pursues populist agenda and skank renumeration for those professions that are needed most.
In fact it was a solid reason for leaving the UK myself, Engineering qualification then studied a masters in operational research (no loans I should say, worked in the summer semesters) and then offered I think it was £23k.
Bottom line, the UK does not value skilled professionals. And until the lust for financial wizards dissipates nothing will change. Perhaps the collapse of the city would be a good thing for the country if Brexit delivers this.Comment
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Originally posted by original PM View PostIndeed - but as no one is forced to go to uni then maybe people need to think about whether they can afford it before they sign up for it.
Bit like everything else in life.I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter manComment
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Originally posted by Whorty View PostSo the affluent families kids go to Uni, but the poor kids who are already disadvantaged by the school they go to, can't go to Uni. The poor will never be able to get themselves up the social ladder. At least under Thatcher us poor kids had a chance of social progression!Comment
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