Prison T&C's

[Phoenix]

The last refuge of the blinkered socialist....blame Thatcher

Last refuge of the blinkered Iron Lady lover...Blame Labour?

[Lucy]

SA I'm afraid I have to say it, but we would not be enjoying the prosperity we are today without the reforms Thatcher put in place (and Blair has not revoked)...

[SallyAnne]

The last refuge of the blinkered socialist....blame Thatcher

Its not the last refuge mate, its the first port of call.

[Bagpuss]

Sally I agree that the biggest rise in law and disorder and break up of the family unit was in the 80s, the stats speak for themselves. However, the yobbo culture is all over the country, and we have plenty of jobs to go around these days.

The yobs could be dealt with by bringing back some form of national service, give them a sense of worth and a sense of meaning in their community. I really think it would be a great thing for everyone concerned.

But, I think the yob culture isn't that strongly linked to the UK prison population. Most yobbos probably turn out ok, only a hardcore are going to go on to be problematic.

[Phoenix]

Its not the last refuge mate, its the first port of call.

Ha Ha! you all sound like a load of footy hooligans! My team is better than your team

[Ardesco]

Its not the last refuge mate, its the first port of call.

<pedantic mode>

aha so you admit you are a blinkered socialist then !!!!

</pedantic mode>

HTH

[SallyAnne]

SA I'm afraid I have to say it, but we would not be enjoying the prosperity we are today without the reforms Thatcher put in place (and Blair has not revoked)...

I'm not saying everything she did was bad - I'm not a biased as this lot.
For a starter, my folks bought their council house, and moved us out of the murderous sesspit of an estate we grew up in.
Bavo maggie for that.

But which other reforms are you talking about Lucy?

[Troll]

Last refuge of the blinkered Iron Lady lover...Blame Labour?

Not a great fan of the woman herself - but we are all living proof of her ideals - hard work =reward

[Lucy]

Sally I agree that the biggest rise in law and disorder and break up of the family unit was in the 80s, the stats speak for themselves. However, the yobbo culture is all over the country, and we have plenty of jobs to go around these days.

The yobs could be dealt with by bringing back some form of national service, give them a sense of worth and a sense of meaning in their community. I really think it would be a great thing for everyone concerned.

But, I think the yob culture isn't that strongly linked to the UK prison population. Most yobbos probably turn out ok, only a hardcore are going to go on to be problematic.

Geez, fluffy, another good point.

Are you someone else today ?

[Phoenix]

Not a great fan of the woman herself - but we are all living proof of her ideals - hard work =reward

But where is the punishment of the wrong doers?