Finsbury Park attack - terrorism or not?

[BrilloPad]

I am getting fed up with the whole Muslim agenda in this country. 1000's of Asylum seekers who some then choose to attack the population of the country that have taken them in.

I think you are getting confused. What Muslim agenda is this?

I do agree though that Syrian refugees should by taken in by Saudi. They would be happier there.

[SueEllen]

Not terrorism.

Not political motivation, not part of a larger goal, no claiming of responsibility by an organisation.

ISIS claims anything as long as the perpetrator of violence shouts some of the right words.

[DaveB]

Whoa whoa whoa. Stop looking for justification which isn't there. At no point has anyone said he has ties to the EDL. It's scraping the bottom of the barrel to assume he's anything to do with them.

I have nothing to do with EDL, but I tell you what, I am getting fed up with the whole Muslim agenda in this country. There are now over 3m Muslims in Britain. That's doubled in 10 years. In some parts of London 50% of the population are Muslim with over 1.5m born abroad. 1000's of Asylum seekers who some then choose to attack the population of the country that have taken them in.

That's not Racism. That's not terrorism. That's fact. Enough is enough.

And neither have I, I was using it as an example of the same sort of hate speech that comes from ISIS et al, thats all. If we accept that the hate coming from ISIS influences others to carry out attacks why are we saying it can't happen when the hate comes from the far right / white supremacist assholes instead?

[VectraMan]

I'm not at all sure what the political motives were for the Manchester and London attacks, but this bloke had a very clear political anti immigrant motive. So perhaps more terrorist than the others.

[original PM]

What Muslim agenda? Explain as like those who call themselves Christians they are not one homogeneous group.

And there is always someone who turns up shouting this sort of thing.

The Muslim agenda is to live in a country where Sharia Law is the only recognised law.

[VectraMan]

Whoa whoa whoa. Stop looking for justification which isn't there. At no point has anyone said he has ties to the EDL. It's scraping the bottom of the barrel to assume he's anything to do with them.

I have nothing to do with EDL, but I tell you what, I am getting fed up with the whole Muslim agenda in this country. There are now over 3m Muslims in Britain. That's doubled in 10 years. In some parts of London 50% of the population are Muslim with over 1.5m born abroad. 1000's of Asylum seekers who some then choose to attack the population of the country that have taken them in.

That's not Racism. That's not terrorism. That's fact. Enough is enough.

You should have started with : I'm not a racist but...

[MarillionFan]

And there is always someone who turns up shouting this sort of thing.

The Muslim agenda is to live in a country where Sharia Law is the only recognised law.

The Islam Agenda is to be the worlds largest religion. That everyone should worship Allah the one & only.
Islam is the only Religious + Political system, which means all religions and all types of political states are in it's aim.

Would you like a copy of my Quran which I have on my bookshelf and have read a few times to check that?

[VectraMan]

And there is always someone who turns up shouting this sort of thing.

The Muslim agenda is to live in a country where Sharia Law is the only recognised law.

If that were the case why live here?

[MarillionFan]

If that were the case why live here?

Because if he went to a Muslim led country he'd be stoned to death. Oh hang on what are we debating again?.....

[NotAllThere]

...I know we are supposed to have freedom of speech in this county but you know, not for you white indigenous people..

MF is, in fact, neither white, nor indigenous. You racialist.

My point was there are thicko bigots around who just want to hate. Muslims, Christians, gays, straights, fatties, thinnies.

Can't we just accept people for what they are?

I understand where you're coming from, but I think accepting thicko hate-filled bigots for what they are is a slippery slope.