Official (if AtW allows) Labour Manifesto Thread

[AtW]

What Korbyn is trying to do is help Tory Scum introduce massive tax increases on us whilst claiming that Labour would have taxed even more, so Korbyn wins any way and we lose in any way other than getting Lib Dems elected who just say 1% increase in income tax on ALL TAX BANDS, now that's fair.

[d000hg]

Who's paying for all this stuff?

Read the manifesto or wait for a proper analysis.

As Laura K. writes, we certainly can't complain there's no difference between the parties this time.

[d000hg]

They also want:
1. free nursery provision for children 2-5
2. Triple lock pensions guaranteed
3. Brexit as long as it preserves British jobs

1. is a Tory policy isn't it? And I think they're committed to Brexit?

[SueEllen]

What Korbyn is trying to do is help Tory Scum introduce massive tax increases on us whilst claiming that Labour would have taxed even more, so Korbyn wins any way and we lose in any way other than getting Lib Dems elected who just say 1% increase in income tax on ALL TAX BANDS, now that's fair.

When are you standing as a lib dem candidate?

Just need to know so I can come help you with the leafleting.

[VectraMan]

Labour- Bankrupting the country for the many, not the few.

We already have Brexit for that.

At least the people that complained that politicians were all the same are getting what they want. The choices are now: left wing extremist nutcases, or right wing extremist nutcases.

[jamesbrown]

Read the manifesto or wait for a proper analysis.

As Laura K. writes, we certainly can't complain there's no difference between the parties this time.

I love the spin leading up to these launches about "fully costed" manifestos. All parties do this. What you actually end up with is a post-it note of WAGs in the billions.

In other words, they're only ever useful for a sense of direction. With Labour, the direction is to soak the rich with headline tax rates. With the Tories, it'll be to soak the rich with stealth taxes (I predict). Reduced tax and spend is definitely not on the agenda.

[d000hg]

Neither of them is extreme. It's just unusual for us to have a party leader who dares take a single half-step from dead-centre Makes it more interesting I suppose.

I love the spin leading up to these launches about "fully costed" manifestos. All parties do this. What you actually end up with is a post-it note of WAGs in the billions.

In other words, they're only ever useful for a sense of direction. With Labour, the direction is to soak the rich with headline tax rates. With the Tories, it'll be to soak the rich with stealth taxes (I predict). Reduced tax and spend is definitely not on the agenda.

Indeed, the current climate doesn't really allow anyone to reduce taxes but then an ageing population, imminent disruption of the job scene, and high immigration mean there really isn't scope to reduce spending and maintain infrastructure. Nobody knows what to do about any of those things.

[vetran]

They also want:
1. free nursery provision for children 2-5

Completely fail to provide enough places and watch rates go up.

[d000hg]

Completely fail to provide enough places and watch rates go up.

Actually my teacher friend who used to run a nursery says the opposite... the rates the government pay per child are so low it's not really sustainable for private nurseries to run. Although that is/was the current Tory implementation, maybe Labour plan to increase the rate.

[MeMeMe1966]

I think I read that the Tory manifesto is out on Thursday. Does anyone know when the lib dems are publishing theirs?