Scottish Referendum Part 2 - Electric Boogaloo

[Batcher]

Article was dated September 2016. Polls since then have shown lower support.

The EU would love Scotland to continue the UK's membership. The EU would be thinking about Scotland paying the UK's current net contributions. £8.6bn in 2016.

I imagine Sturgeon probably has something different in mind, probably thinking more along the lines of being a net recipient of EU money rather like 20 of the existing EU27.

Hence why Scotland's accession to the EU could never be 'automatic'.

But still, no pro-Independence Scot can explain how being in the EU is 'independence' in any way, shape or form.

It's a different kind of union. Any idiot can see that.

In Westminster we have no say and can be outvoted easily. We have far more representation in the EU and would be independent making decisions that looked after Scotland's interests.

May is looking to trade Scotland's fisheries and agriculture for a Brexit deal that benefits the south east and her rich friends.

[Batcher]

I am interested in how you see this conundrum.

Independent Scotland outside the EU kind of defeats the point.

Independent Scotland inside the EU has a hard border with England disrupting trade.

How can they have a hard border between Scotland and England yet a soft border between Ireland and NI?

[Batcher]

A third of SNP voters voted for independence from the EU.

There are the 'double ooters' who voted to leave the UK in order to get out of the EU, so therefore also voted to leave the EU. They're going to vote to remain in an out-of-the-EU UK.

You know this how?

[northernladyuk]

How can they have a hard border between Scotland and England yet a soft border between Ireland and NI?

Soft border post Brexit is propaganda. There is currently a soft border.

[shaunbhoy]

Why did the SNP get over 1 Million votes in total in 2016, the highest ever by one party in the Scottish elections despite being in power for 10 years when traditionally a government will start losing votes?

Because of the abject failure of Labour to look after the concerns of scottish socialists.

Labour loses huge numbers, SNP gains huge numbers. Not rocket science.

That does NOT, however, prove that those disenchanted former-Labour voters are all mad keen on independence, as many in your party would seek to suggest.

[shaunbhoy]

In Westminster we have no say and can be outvoted easily. We have far more representation in the EU

Oh stop it....stop it!!!!

[d000hg]

Soft border post Brexit is propaganda. There is currently a soft border.

That's kind of the point. There's a soft border between two EU nations.

[northernladyuk]

That's kind of the point. There's a soft border between two EU nations.

And the border between an EU nation and a non-EU / EEA nation outside of the single market and customs union will not be soft. This is the problem that an independent Scotland inside the EU would face, as sympathetic as I am to any impulses to separate Scotland from the racists, cretins and hard-right Tories south of the border.

[SimonMac]

It's quite in here today?!

[barrydidit]

Put on hold for another 300 years.