Diesel Scrappage Scheme

[SueEllen]

Diesel fumes ‘biggest health catastrophe since Black Death’ as London exceeds yearly air pollution levels – in eight days | The Independent

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...tion-in-europe

UK air pollution 'linked to 40,000 early deaths a year' - BBC News

Scrap ALL diesels, they are literally killing us all.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-38170794

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...cientists.html

I'm going to let my engine run outside your house for an hour....

[DimPrawn]

I'm going to let my engine run outside your house for an hour....

Whilst you pop in? 5 mins should do it.

[Pip in a Poke]

Hmmm... interesting.

Not wishing to throw a curveball into the discussion but am I not right in assuming that part of the reason I have a diesel vehicle sitting on my drive is because a certain Labour prime minister made VED rates for diesel vehicles more attractive because they emit fewer greenhouse gasses?

We really are governed by a bunch of incompetents.

[DimPrawn]

Hmmm... interesting.

Not wishing to throw a curveball into the discussion but am I not right in assuming that part of the reason I have a diesel vehicle sitting on my drive is because a certain Labour prime minister made VED rates for diesel vehicles more attractive because they emit fewer greenhouse gasses?

We really are governed by a bunch of incompetents.

Indeed, petrol engines emit plant food, diesel engines emit tiny soot particulates and nitrogen dioxide, lethal stuff.

If any govt cares about public health, diesels need to be banned, now.

[SueEllen]

Hmmm... interesting.

Not wishing to throw a curveball into the discussion but am I not right in assuming that part of the reason I have a diesel vehicle sitting on my drive is because a certain Labour prime minister made VED rates for diesel vehicles more attractive because they emit fewer greenhouse gasses?

We really are governed by a bunch of incompetents.

You've noticed?

Every time politicians get told the science is dodgy they don't listen they decide on alternative facts.

[Fred Bloggs]

You've noticed?

Every time politicians get told the science is dodgy they don't listen they decide on alternative facts.

Well, I suppose Mr Brown had to be right about something else. He was right about not joining the Euro, and he was right that diesel engines ARE more efficient AND produce fewer green house emissions than petrol engined vehicles.

However, it seems priorities have now changed. Is global warming not now number 1 priority in favour of banning diesel cars?

[milanbenes]

this would only happen in progressive UK

can't see this happening in continental Europe

infact on the mainland we all have these green stickers from TuV Nord and as long as you have a modern compliant diesel, and you pay the once only (that means one off/onetime) 15 euros you can drive in the city centers as often as you so wish

GB: Emissions stickers for Germany | TÜV SÜD GRUPPE

it would make sense for the UK to do the same, but I suppose it doesn't produce as much income as the extra 10 pounds a day (every day - nice little earner) charge in London and probably other cities

on the mainland if your diesel is too old to have the green sticker then you can't drive in the center of the cities - how simple is that

Milan.

[PurpleGorilla]

this would only happen in progressive UK

can't see this happening in continental Europe

infact on the mainland we all have these green stickers from TuV Nord and as long as you have a modern compliant diesel, and you pay the once only (that means one off/onetime) 15 euros you can drive in the city centers as often as you so wish

GB: Emissions stickers for Germany | TÜV SÜD GRUPPE

it would make sense for the UK to do the same, but I suppose it doesn't produce as much income as the extra 10 pounds a day (every day - nice little earner) charge in London and probably other cities

on the mainland if your diesel is too old to have the green sticker then you can't drive in the center of the cities - how simple is that

Milan.

Do VWs still get the green sticker or do you need to pell them off?

[milanbenes]

lol of course they do

anyway, back to the point, it would seem, compared to the mainland, Brits are being done up like kippers again ! on the congestion charge and the diesel scrappage

Milan.

[Halo Jones]

As a diesel owner I shall wait & see what the scheme entails,

I assume that it’s going to be for the older models only, as there has been no comment that the road tax scheme is to change (as that is based on CO2 not NOX)