Reply to: Diesel Scrappage Scheme

[BackupBoy]

Nothing says "successful contractor" like a 15yo Astra diesel.

How about an 18 year-old Ukrainian ... oops, sorry Audi A4?

[The_Equalizer]

There was a place like that up near Banbury some years ago when I had to visit a client on one of the old airfields. Every inch of tarmac was taken up with all the Rover cars which were left unsold when they went breasts up. Thousands and thousands. They're probably still there for all I know, it was difficult enough to sell Rovers when they had a dealer network, I doubt you could give them away now.

Jolly interesting if not a little sad.

The website Autoshi5e has a thing for Rover 75s at the moment. It's how I found out about R.A.F Thurleigh too. I like the ethos of Autoshi5e and there's some clever people on it:

Autoshi5e

[Mordac]

This is what happened with the last scrappage scheme. Any car under a grand was automatically demand with the value of the scheme. So total heaps to cars with many tens of thousands of miles of life left got squashed, including interesting classics. In fact, so popular was the scheme that the government had to store a large number of cars in RAF Thurleigh before they were 'processed':

R.A.F Thurleigh (car graveyard) April15 - 28DL

There was a place like that up near Banbury some years ago when I had to visit a client on one of the old airfields. Every inch of tarmac was taken up with all the Rover cars which were left unsold when they went breasts up. Thousands and thousands. They're probably still there for all I know, it was difficult enough to sell Rovers when they had a dealer network, I doubt you could give them away now.

[NigelJK]

It's the C11 in burnt diesel fumes that are carcinogenic.

[SueEllen]

It's not much newer than that... 12 year old Mazda

Keep your car until you know the details.

Oh and apparently Westminister's environmental charge on diesels is illegal.

[d000hg]

It's not much newer than that... 12 year old Mazda

[MrMarkyMark]

So is this going to effect modern, efficient diesels (the ones currently in the £0-30 range) or only the old clunkers? Does it mean I should avoid a diesel car or does it mean diesel car prices are going to plummet as everyone moves to petrol and I SHOULD buy diesel?!

I would stick to your current petrol model

[d000hg]

So is this going to effect modern, efficient diesels (the ones currently in the £0-30 range) or only the old clunkers? Does it mean I should avoid a diesel car or does it mean diesel car prices are going to plummet as everyone moves to petrol and I SHOULD buy diesel?!

[NigelJK]

I have a diesel vehicle sitting on my drive is because a certain Labour prime minister made VED rates for diesel vehicles more attractive because they emit fewer greenhouse gasses?

Sort of. It was EU legislation, backed by the very powerful Green lobby in Brussels that dictated what constituted a 'clean' engine. It also coincided with German deisel manufacturers telling porkies about how 'clean' their engines were. The USA had it right Tax the Nox which is what kills people, not the theoretical CO2 warming.

[SueEllen]

So basically if you're looking to buy a nice car - buy an old diesel and trade it in and get a nice discount

You need to have owned it for 12 months.

With the last scheme they extended twice but I don't think the total time frame was a year.

[The_Equalizer]

So basically if you're looking to buy a nice car - buy an old diesel and trade it in and get a nice discount

This is what happened with the last scrappage scheme. Any car under a grand was automatically demand with the value of the scheme. So total heaps to cars with many tens of thousands of miles of life left got squashed, including interesting classics. In fact, so popular was the scheme that the government had to store a large number of cars in RAF Thurleigh before they were 'processed':

R.A.F Thurleigh (car graveyard) April15 - 28DL

[VillageContractor]

So basically if you're looking to buy a nice car - buy an old diesel and trade it in and get a nice discount

[bobspud]

lol of course they do

anyway, back to the point, it would seem, compared to the mainland, Brits are being done up like kippers again ! on the congestion charge and the diesel scrappage

Milan.

Lets not forget that the TFL muppets ****ed the lights up on purpose to make drivers lives as hard as possible to try and discourage them from driving so in order to solve the problem all they need to do is:

1) provide a tax incentive that can be claimed back for every employee that works from home instead of commute for 4 days a week

2) un break the traffic light systems in the towns for the remaining traffic.

Problems solved... But thats solving the problem and they are not interested in that they want more money...

[Halo Jones]

As a diesel owner I shall wait & see what the scheme entails,

I assume that it’s going to be for the older models only, as there has been no comment that the road tax scheme is to change (as that is based on CO2 not NOX)

[milanbenes]

lol of course they do

anyway, back to the point, it would seem, compared to the mainland, Brits are being done up like kippers again ! on the congestion charge and the diesel scrappage

Milan.