Iraq - The End game

[Churchill]

Whereas your impotence in both areas really leaves you on the high ground eh Churchill?

Never make the mistake of comparing impotence with self control, peasant.

[shaunbhoy]

the hardman who deals with warring tribes in a "firm" way is a staple of history - look at Stalin and Tito. If you remove such a "leader" for want of a better word, it's always impossible to contain the fallout.
The invasion was a terrible mistake (as was seen by millions of people in this country when it started) which has left us looking weak and vulnerable.

So its good news day for the "hardmen" in the world is it? There is only one stance which leaves us looking weak and vulnerable, and it ain't the one that the likes of me would tend to take. If you don't believe me just ask all those guys we were remembering over the weekend that are all currently spinning in their graves after reading your last post.

[shaunbhoy]

Never make the mistake of comparing impotence with self control, peasant.

I never have churchill, that's why my bloodline is set to continue and yours ain't. I'm sure Mother Nature knows what she is about. Your "self-control" is probably for the best anyway, this country has more than enough weedy pigeons as it is if this board is anything to go by.

[Ardesco]

So its good news day for the "hardmen" in the world is it? There is only one stance which leaves us looking weak and vulnerable, and it ain't the one that the likes of me would tend to take. If you don't believe me just ask all those guys we were remembering over the weekend that are all currently spinning in their graves after reading your last post.

Saddam may not have been a particulary plesent person, and he may have been hated by millions, but one thing you can't deny is that he knew how to keep Iraq in order.

I daresay the general populace that shut up and got on with thier day to day lives were much safer and had a much better standard of life under Saddam than they do right now...

[Churchill]

I never have churchill, that's why my bloodline is set to continue and yours ain't. I'm sure Mother Nature knows what she is about. Your "self-control" is probably for the best anyway, this country has more than enough weedy pigeons as it is if this board is anything to go by.

Says a failed squadie who's now a cyber warrior?

Your arguments are so predictable. Bloodline? Are you sure the black one in the middle is yours?

[sasguru]

So its good news day for the "hardmen" in the world is it? There is only one stance which leaves us looking weak and vulnerable, and it ain't the one that the likes of me would tend to take. If you don't believe me just ask all those guys we were remembering over the weekend that are all currently spinning in their graves after reading your last post.

Don't be deliberately obtuse. We leave in plenty of hardmen (and even support them) when it suits our interests. Removing Saddam was NOT in our interest.

[shaunbhoy]

Saddam may not have been a particulary plesent person, and he may have been hated by millions, but one thing you can't deny is that he knew how to keep Iraq in order.

Much the same could be said for Hitler/Stalin/Pol Pot etc. So that justifies leaving them in power does it? After all, as you pointed out earlier, we had the UN green light to act.

I daresay the general populace that shut up and got on with thier day to day lives were much safer and had a much better standard of life under Saddam than they do right now...

See above comment. Nice and easy sentiments to have when you live thousands of miles away and can sit on your hands and look the other way, Just when did the people in this country lose their moral fibre anyway?

[Xenophon]

Don't be deliberately obtuse. We leave in plenty of hardmen (and even support them) when it suits our interests. Removing Saddam was NOT in our interest.

obtuse

Have loved that word ever since I saw 'The Shawshank Redemption.'

[sasguru]

Much the same could be said for Hitler/Stalin/Pol Pot etc. So that justifies leaving them in power does it? After all, as you pointed out earlier, we had the UN green light to act.



See above comment. Nice and easy sentiments to have when you live thousands of miles away and can sit on your hands and look the other way, Just when did the people in this country lose their moral fibre anyway?

I don't recall us doing anything about Stalin and Pol-Pot. Guess why - NOT IN OUR INTERESTS! Hitler - very much in our interests.
Simple concept - do try and grasp it, won't you?

[shaunbhoy]

Says a failed squadie who's now a cyber warrior?

Your arguments are so predictable. Bloodline? Are you sure the black one in the middle is yours?

You really are SO easy churchill. Now run along and leave the big boys alone to squabble as they see fit.