Why Does the EU Get Such a Bad Rap?

[VectraMan]

Typical mistruth shows why people dislike politicians & the EU because the way they win is lying

So you voted for the side that told the biggest lies. That'll learn em.

Serious point: we hear and see virtually nothing about what goes on in Brussels. It's hardly ever reported in the papers or in the news, except of course when The Daily Mail decides to make something up. It's a shame that the referendum became so political; maybe it's a bit naive but perhaps there might have been a better way to properly inform the public about what really happens, maybe make some documentaries or have interviews with the key people. At least then we might have had a decision based on reality, whichever way it went, rather than having a "you're with us or against us" political crusade feeding on the ignorance of the majority (and to be fair a Remain campaign that strayed into fearmongering when they should have been explaining).

[NotAllThere]

17.5 million proles, really?

There are about 30 million workers in the UK. 60% identify as working class = proletariat. That's 18 million. Some will have voted Brexit, some to remain.

The question was "Why does the EU get such a bad rap". The answer is: the proles need a hate figure. Some of them hate the wrong target, the government is working on that. Soon, everyone in the UK will hate Europe (except dissidents who will rapidly become unpersons) and love Big Brother.

It's a conspiracy, I tell ya.

[vetran]

So you voted for the side that told the biggest lies. That'll learn em.

Serious point: we hear and see virtually nothing about what goes on in Brussels. It's hardly ever reported in the papers or in the news, except of course when The Daily Mail decides to make something up. It's a shame that the referendum became so political; maybe it's a bit naive but perhaps there might have been a better way to properly inform the public about what really happens, maybe make some documentaries or have interviews with the key people. At least then we might have had a decision based on reality, whichever way it went, rather than having a "you're with us or against us" political crusade feeding on the ignorance of the majority (and to be fair a Remain campaign that strayed into fearmongering when they should have been explaining).

You might think they are lies but as we have seen the EU is not above suspicion as most of the senior EU politicians make for interesting scandals.


So who should we interview

Donald <Don't bug me > Tusk?

Jean Claude <Tax Break> Juncker?

Angela < Come on Over> Merkel?

Francois < Love my Mistress & Barnet> Hollande?

any other important ones we should talk to?

[scooterscot]

The fact that they are incapable of producing a set of properly audited accounts to explain where all the money goes?

Yes but what about the EU parliament?

[woohoo]

There are about 30 million workers in the UK. 60% identify as working class = proletariat. That's 18 million. Some will have voted Brexit, some to remain.

The question was "Why does the EU get such a bad rap". The answer is: the proles need a hate figure. Some of them hate the wrong target, the government is working on that. Soon, everyone in the UK will hate Europe (except dissidents who will rapidly become unpersons) and love Big Brother.

It's a conspiracy, I tell ya.

So 30 million votes, how many of the 17.5 million who voted to leave where proles? How many proles voted against leaving?

[scooterscot]

I will tell you why. Because the founding six are more important and have a bigger say in the EU. That is fundamentally undemocratic. All members should have absolutely equal status.

Exactly How Scotland feels in the UK. And yet Scotland was told yesterday it does not have an equal say.

Double standard supreme with cream on it and some hundreds of thousands for the finish.

[vetran]

Exactly How Scotland feels in the UK. And yet Scotland was told yesterday is does not have an equal say.

Double standard supreme with cream on it and some hundreds of thousands for the finish.

payback?


Scottish MPs react with fury as only English and Welsh MPs are allowed to vote on housing bill - Telegraph

Scottish MPs have reacted with fury at new rules preventing them from voting on English matters which were used in Parliament for the first time today.
Members from north of the border were barred from voting on English elements of the housing bill during a legislative grand committee, the first time the new measures have been used in the House of Commons since they were proposed by David Cameron's government.
Scotland sets its own housing policy in the Scottish parliament.
Pete Wishart, an SNP MP, accused the government of "driving Scotland out of the door" by barring MPs from voting, while Conservative MPs said the measures right a historic wrong which made "second class citizens" out of English members.
There was no formal vote on the session after English and Welsh MPs overwhelmingly approved the changes.

[vetran]

So 30 million votes, how many of the 17.5 million who voted to leave where proles? How many proles voted against leaving?

everyone who doesn't agree with the expat luvvies are obviously proles.

[scooterscot]

So you voted for the side that told the biggest lies. That'll learn em.

Serious point: we hear and see virtually nothing about what goes on in Brussels. It's hardly ever reported in the papers or in the news, except of course when The Daily Mail decides to make something up. It's a shame that the referendum became so political; maybe it's a bit naive but perhaps there might have been a better way to properly inform the public about what really happens, maybe make some documentaries or have interviews with the key people. At least then we might have had a decision based on reality, whichever way it went, rather than having a "you're with us or against us" political crusade feeding on the ignorance of the majority (and to be fair a Remain campaign that strayed into fearmongering when they should have been explaining).

Blame the British media then.

It's not hard to find info on TOP STORIES | DW.COM

There's even TV channels: EC Audiovisual Service - EbS

Actually the europa.eu has a great job search tool if you don't already know. Got a couple of direct jobs via...

When it comes down to it you can be 'informed' by choice or be spoon fed ignorant. Crumbs if I read nothing but the Daily fail I'd be raging within minutes.

[Mordac]

Proof....

Corruption: Expenses and allowances paid un-receipted just for turning up. No audited accounts filed for years. Billions paid out to fund white elephant projects (that airport in Spain for example).
Disregard for democracy: the Irish referendum on the Lisbon treaty. Make sure they have another one and bully/bribe them into voting the right way this time.
Political egos: Look at all the flapping around to "save" Greece, for example. The fact that Greece has been well and truly buttrogered by the "deal" doesn't matter squat. The important thing was to save the EU vanity project, which is ultimately what the EU is.

I'm sure there is a hell of a lot more in that particular can of worms, but I don't have access to a big enough tin opener.