Do higher taxes on booze and fags work?

[tomtomagain]

Why don't you just go back to Stormfront where you belong

The Apple retailer?

[original PM]

I found out at the weekend that you won't be able to buy ciggies in 10's any more. I knew about the plain packaging but not this. Apparently it helps price kids out of buying fags by forcing then to stump up for 20 at a time?

Thing is back in the day you could buy 5's or even singles and they got rid of them for same reason and it made no difference so...

[NickFitz]

It was some demented Septic who managed to get the laws on drugs drawn up by the UN.

In the 1960s there were less than 10,000 heroin addicts in the UK.

The updated laws have improved that no end.

Yep: Harry J. Anslinger. The Department of Prohibition he headed was being closed down because they'd realised prohibition of booze was an abject failure that had caused a massive rise in organised crime. So he made up a bunch of racist crap about marijuana, used mainly by blacks and Latinos, to guarantee himself an ongoing government job in the new Bureau of Narcotics… leading to prohibition of drugs, which was an abject failure that caused a massive rise in organised crime

[MrMarkyMark]

It was some demented Septic who managed to get the laws on drugs drawn up by the UN.

In the 1960s there were less than 10,000 heroin addicts in the UK.

The updated laws have improved that no end.

Yep: Harry J. Anslinger. The Department of Prohibition he headed was being closed down because they'd realised prohibition of booze was an abject failure that had caused a massive rise in organised crime. So he made up a bunch of racist crap about marijuana, used mainly by blacks and Latinos, to guarantee himself an ongoing government job in the new Bureau of Narcotics… leading to prohibition of drugs, which was an abject failure that caused a massive rise in organised crime

Seems we have found ourselves a couple of "readers" (copyright Bill Hicks)

I really recommend this, it has even taught me a few bits I didn't know about the whole story

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00P9BOX...ng=UTF8&btkr=1

[blackeye]

Given the huge numbers of people moving to vaping, I would say the higher taxes have been massively successful in terms of people quitting the cigs; albeit to a questionable alternative.

But I think its a huge win for the government, as they can't be worst than smoking tobacco in the long run, so fewer tobacco related deaths and less strain on the NHS.

[James Tiberius Kirk]

It was some demented Septic who managed to get the laws on drugs drawn up by the UN.

In the 1960s there were less than 10,000 heroin addicts in the UK.

The updated laws have improved that no end.

Oi lizard - did you not get the "no postimg until these useless Mods are gone" memo?

[SueEllen]

Given the huge numbers of people moving to vaping, I would say the higher taxes have been massively successful in terms of people quitting the cigs; albeit to a questionable alternative.

But I think its a huge win for the government, as they can't be worst than smoking tobacco in the long run, so fewer tobacco related deaths and less strain on the NHS.

People are just turning into long living fat pigs instead costing 10% of the NHS budget.

Maybe it was cheaper and more revenue efficient to let people die younger of smoking related diseases.

[shaunbhoy]

People are just turning into long living fat pigs instead costing 10% of the NHS budget.

Maybe it was cheaper and more revenue efficient to let people die younger of smoking related diseases.

The voice of Liberal England!!

[vetran]

People are just turning into long living fat pigs instead costing 10% of the NHS budget.

Maybe it was cheaper and more revenue efficient to let people die younger of smoking related diseases.

The quality of mercy is not strained;
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest;
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes:

[d000hg]

Are there not studies showing higher prices DO work? As an extreme example look at the 5p carrier bag charge, but more relevantly hasn't Scotland seen their minimum booze pricing have some effect?